Costa Rica Swinger Vacation (LLV) – Day 4

[00:03] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program.
Bringing you an educational podcast about swinging.
Here are your hosts.
Ed and Phoebe.
Hi, this is Ed.
And this is Phoebe.

[00:24] [Ed] All right, here we are.
Day, four.
It’s been an interesting week so far.
An interesting week.
A lot of introspection going on with us, which is kind of fun.

[00:38] [Phoebe] Yes, yes.

[00:39] [Unknown] Yesterday kind of, well, we’ll get into that.

[00:45] [Phoebe] So yesterday, lots of great pool time.
Again, everyone loves being in the pool.
Why not?
It’s fun.
It’s refreshing.
It’s sexy.
Everyone’s naked.

[00:56] [Unknown] There are a lot of naked people here.

[00:59] [Phoebe] Like actually participating in being naked.

[01:02] [Ed] Like fully naked.
Get a nudist resort.

[01:04] [Unknown] Usually at both pools, although they’re a fair amount of like LV staff.
They’re kind of bikinis.

[01:12] [Ed] Yes, yes.
But yeah, almost everyone participates in the full nudity.
I mean, I’m always fully nude whenever I have an opportunity.

[01:23] [Phoebe] For me, it varies on the day a little bit.

[01:26] [Unknown] I don’t know why.

[01:27] [Ed] You’re a little more shy.

[01:29] [Phoebe] It’s a comfort level thing.
I have to kind of feel the room.
Yeah, I don’t know what it is.
I don’t always just feel like flaunting it or just laying it all out there.
I don’t know.
Maybe I like to like tease a little.

[01:44] [Ed] Tease a little and keep a little like, you know,

[01:47] [Phoebe] leave someone to the imagination, you know.

[01:50] [Ed] I just love to flop it up on the counter.
I know you do.
You put it out there.
That is your best advertising.

[01:56] [Unknown] Hello.
So yeah, pool time.

[02:03] [Ed] Kind of relaxing by the pool we didn’t do an excursion.
A lot of people did leave for the day or part of the day.

[02:10] [Phoebe] A lot of half day excursions.

[02:12] [Ed] Yeah.
So here we are at the pool.
They’re doing a little naked yoga, which was.
That was sexy.
Kind of sexy and fun to watch.
Some naked volleyball at the pool.

[02:24] [Phoebe] That the boobies bouncing up and in out of the water.
That’s always very sexy.

[02:28] [Ed] Yeah, they make a nice splash sound.
The little pool where the swim up bar was.
We went down there for a little bit, but we didn’t get in the water.
Water doesn’t look very clean right now.

[02:43] [Phoebe] It was very cloudy midday.
Yeah.
I think they needed a shock at again that last night, but I don’t think they did.

[02:51] [Ed] Yeah.
They may need to do that every night, but they didn’t.

[02:56] [Phoebe] If you didn’t get there early in the morning to get a seat,
you’re kind of screwed or a chair.
Right.
And so I wanted to be in the shade and didn’t want to be in the water right away.
So I couldn’t really hang out down there.
So I came back up to the upper pool and stayed there.
There’s always more room in the upper pool, but everyone crowds down at those smaller pool,
because it’s more intimate.
It’s the same thing I said before.
Everyone wants to hang out in the kitchen where it’s small and all the action is.

[03:22] [Ed] Yeah, you get to rub elbows.

[03:25] [Phoebe] Yeah, you’re kind of forced to be.
Yeah.
It’s rubbing up and bumping up next to each other.
I know.
It’s fun.

[03:35] [Ed] Small spaces are fun.
Did you do that?

[03:37] [Phoebe] Small spaces with lots of naked bodies.
Lots of slippery stuff.

[03:43] [Ed] Great conversation with a couple yesterday by the pool about desire and their experiences with desire.
So once camera.

[03:55] [Phoebe] Yeah.
I think it was pearl.

[03:57] [Ed] Well, the Riviera Maya versus pearl, but yes.
Exactly.
Desire pearl.
And it was great to hear their perspective and some little tips on discounts and tricks
of the trade, so to speak.
Right.

[04:12] [Unknown] And so, of course, we’re looking at it again.

[04:14] [Ed] We keep looking at it and then getting discouraged and then looking at it again.

[04:19] [Phoebe] Right.

[04:20] [Ed] And after.
Often and often on again.

[04:24] [Phoebe] And after this trip, I still have more questions.
Right.
And we’ll get to that later.
So today, they’re well, today there is a big excursion of about 90 people that have left
the resort.
And they’ll be gone all day.
I think they left it seven this morning, and then we won’t be back until five.

[04:49] [Ed] Yeah.
Yeah.
Zip lining, horseback riding, ATVs, waterfall.
Like.
Which is great.

[04:57] [Phoebe] But I am going to sound a little bitter because I came here to fuck.

[05:03] [Ed] We want to swing at a swing vacation.

[05:06] [Phoebe] Maybe because I’ve seen the country before.
Maybe that’s why I.
Maybe that maybe that’s why.
So there is that.
There is that caveat.
I’ve been here before.
I’ve done some of those activities before.

[05:19] [Ed] But we didn’t choose to do those activities last time.
That’s true.
Except for the fact that everybody else was gone on excursions.
And we felt like, well, shit, we’re sitting around with our dicks in our hands.
I guess we just go on an excursion too.

[05:36] [Phoebe] Right.
But the last time we were here in Costa Rica, we were in Haco.
By the way, love it there.
If you get a chance to go, you should definitely go.
Very jungle, very green, very lush.
And that was a swing or hotel takeover boutique.
Much, much smaller in scale.
But the excursions were free.
And so everybody went.
You didn’t have to go.
Right.
But if you didn’t go, you missed out on more opportunity to chat and get to know people
and connect with them in a different way, sit next to them on the bus.
And that was great.
Here?
No, it’s not free.
It’s not free and everyone paid for it.
Now, half the resort is gone.

[06:21] [Ed] And they may be going on a different excursion than you.
So even if you go on an excursion, it’s probably not the same as maybe the people
you wanted to connect with.
That’s true.
And the excursions, last time we were here, everybody got on a bus.
Everybody did the same thing.
Right.
And I loved that.
It was that group participation thing.

[06:42] [Phoebe] Right?
Group participation.

[06:44] [Ed] What do we love group participation?
Especially large naked groups and small pools.

[06:50] [Phoebe] So yeah, so the resort is dead today.
So we’re going to be doing some relaxing, but sort of.

[06:59] [Ed] And that kind of leads into that this excursion explanation kind of leads into
what happened last night and why last night went the way it did.

[07:12] [Phoebe] Yeah, exactly.
So last night was Glow Night.
I looked fabulous.
You looked fabulous.

[07:19] [Ed] I looked very sporty.

[07:20] [Phoebe] You were.
And I liked that sporty outfit.

[07:22] [Ed] Kind of that Brad Pitt movie where he was.

[07:25] [Unknown] Neon.

[07:27] [Phoebe] Neon headband, not in the stupid headband way, but in the sexy headband way.
Right.
I don’t know what that fabric was, nylon.
Yeah.
Not the Terry cloth kind.
Right.
And he was 70s kind of headband, the hip headband.
And neon shirt, neon shoes, neon, like you were all yellow neon head to toe was fucking awesome.
And then I was, I was also yellow, neon shorts, pink neon bra, pink neon arm warmer things,
which was fun.
And then my, my hair, I have fake hair.
It’s like yarn and stuff.
stuff and it was yellow and green neon and yeah it was it was all great. People did a pretty good
job with neon but I think a lot of people purchased items they thought would glow that did not.

[08:21] [Ed] Right which is the same thing we struggled with. It looks bright and vibrant in Amazon but that does
not mean it’s UV reacted. Yes so so we bought a black light just for that so we could test our
clothing. Yeah because we have a bunch of stuff that’s like bright orange and it is brown under a

[08:41] [Phoebe] black light just does not look good. No in fact the the best things that glow under neon look really
when you said brown it that bodysuit that I’m wearing to peacock it looks really ugly it’s very
blue you know in normal daylight but when you hit it with the neon it just it is yeah it’s almost
like the reflective light on like vests or emergency vehicles right yeah it is that bright yeah
freaking awesome and I have boots that do the same thing so I’m so excited that’ll be fun for

[09:19] [Ed] PKP yeah yeah yeah so there was a performance last night with Naya she did a little burlesque
balloon strip tea stand super sexy she’s a terribly unattractive woman very hard to look at
she wiggled all over the place she was good stretched her legs up over her head very

[09:47] [Phoebe] entertaining she got crowd participation cute little dance like what the routine was great
and it went for three songs and it wasn’t just all stripping she had these balloons two balloons that

[10:00] [Ed] were massive yeah she did a dance to ACDC’s big balls yeah she had three audience members come up
two of them with big balls like big balloons giant balloon like two foot yeah two by three yeah
and then one poor guy who had a miniature balloon very underinflated and unimpressive socially

[10:25] [Phoebe] that’s funny and so then she bounced on them yeah so she squished her body up again so the guy was
in the seat and she like first when she was squishing front face forward right squishing squishing squishing

[10:39] [Unknown] squishing squishing uh uh uh pop and then she landed in his lap and that whenever I was like

[10:45] [Phoebe] yeah screaming and then the second guy she did from the back side so she had to kind of crawl up on it

[10:51] [Unknown] a little bit because the ball was pretty hard to get on and then she was in his lap pressed her

[10:59] [Phoebe] ass right up against him so one guy got the boobs and then like sky got the ass yeah it was hot

[11:06] [Unknown] it was fucking hot we’re the small ball guy get did he get past he’s he sat right on him

[11:14] [Ed] because it was so small he oh and then she got the best seat in the house yeah he did
she was pretty much in his lap the whole time yeah because the ball was so small then just bouncing

[11:23] [Phoebe] up a down point point oh my god i would you would have had more than like a second on that

[11:31] [Unknown] hot seat it was so so good so so fun um and so then then the music you know then more music she was

[11:39] [Phoebe] done and the dancing began great great music so so fun yeah a little mix everything a little mix

[11:45] [Unknown] of the eighties and disco and you name it it was there yeah and then you know we saw a bunch of our

[11:53] [Phoebe] our friends that we have made around the bullside and around the week most of them were tired
and exhausted from going on excursions hey they drank too much they slept too long it didn’t
sleep too long ate something that didn’t agree who knows it’s all the things that happened when

[12:12] [Ed] you you know I guess you’re living it up and maybe the camera both ends yeah yeah but basically

[12:21] [Phoebe] everyone was doing every other vice but not fucking right so there you go the one we hope to
participate in a lot of yeah so yeah so I was a little bit in a bad mood because I realized that
it started to dawn on me that this might not be a swing or hotel takeover it just might be
just lifestyle whatever the fuck that means which is what new nude nudist resort with no kids

[13:02] [Ed] yeah it’s just an adult playground playground and it’s people who hang out and participate regularly

[13:11] [Unknown] with the LLV group right or not I don’t know most of the people we’ve talked to have been to one

[13:20] [Ed] or more LLV events they’ve been to Cabo they just got back from oh where was it there was a

[13:27] [Unknown] cruise oh tiki and so I wonder if those are more people yeah I don’t know so I the question is

[13:40] [Phoebe] you know we well here here to give you some perspective what Ed and I are used to our hotel take
overs for one or two nights where you dance most of the night you’ve got a playroom you’ve got a
BDS room you’ve got a watching room you can go right from the dance floor to the playroom you don’t
have to walk through the hotel you can go have sex immediately or you can go back to your room drag
some people back there which isn’t hard at all and then fuck right it all happens in the same night
everyone’s all mashed together you do it same thing with house parties you go to the house parties
most of them are handpicked you go and everyone’s fucking fucking people are fucking around the pool

[14:24] [Ed] people are fucking in the bedroom people are fucking in the living room and there’s some sexy build-up
to get everybody in the mood and then everybody’s like sexually primed to just go have fun

[14:38] [Phoebe] they don’t wait to the 11th hour it’s just it’s I don’t know we’re used to
fucking going on everywhere all the time and maybe that’s what pearl and desire is like maybe

[14:48] [Unknown] but I don’t even know people swap there we have heard that there’s a lot of fucking but we don’t

[14:53] [Phoebe] know there’s a lot of other people fucking other people yeah a little OPP action I mean there may be
beds around the hot toves with people fucking all day long but are they fucking other people I don’t

[15:03] [Ed] know we have to find out and if you know let us know because as much as I like fucking Phoebe
I can do that every day we do that every day we can yeah we come on events to have fun with

[15:22] [Phoebe] other people right so right and we have a nudist resort where we live which is family oriented so
you can’t openly have displays of affection even with you know each other your own spouse because
they don’t know if public right public yeah and they it’s family so but we’ve had more sex at the

[15:41] [Ed] nudist resort yes then we have here but anyway and it was 60 bucks to get in it’s a mile from

[15:52] [Phoebe] our house so so there you go okay and I have some perspective um yeah so so seeds have been
sewn so Ed and I were like all right you know tonight is the night you know we’re networking we’ve
and everyone was like right right and we’re like okay fuck that shit so at one point I just said
you know what I feel like I’m chasing now and I’m not gonna chase seeds have been sewn networking has
been done if you want to come fuck this I’m over here other than that you know I don’t know I don’t

[16:33] [Ed] know what else to say I got nothing for you right so because you can only have either lukewarm
responses but not negative let not like I know there was never definitive we’re not interested
or not tonight but maybe tomorrow like like nothing it was all just like non verbal avoidance because

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[18:07] [Ed] they were ill or tired and all that stuff but I’m just saying the direct response was never given
like we never got a clear definitive no it just was a lukewarm non response so yeah so the

[18:23] [Phoebe] difference would be if I had been out drinking all day and I wasn’t feeling great I would say you
know what I’m not feeling so so spicy right now let me go back to the room take a power nap and see
how we feel later but we are definitely interested in playing with you right that would have been my
response and the other couple would have been great we’re like we’re on the same page we just
need to coordinate the time and then if later that night I was like you know the power nap didn’t
work but I definitely want to get to you guys get with you guys tomorrow let’s set a date
is that that I don’t know I don’t know is that hard I mean we’re eight years in maybe these

[19:04] [Ed] people are more than eight years in are they not well some of them are some of them are fairly new

[19:11] [Unknown] so maybe that’s the problem maybe it’s just sorry sorry I’ve sound bitter I’m sorry but I heard a

[19:19] [Ed] butt and this is this is great it’s not great it actually sucks a lot but it’s it’s great because
we’re learning yeah and you guys are getting a little bit of a perspective of kind of one of

[19:37] [Unknown] these want want want want situations where it’s it wasn’t so much that we had expectations that we
were going to get laid multiple times right right but there still wasn’t expectation that there’d

[19:50] [Ed] be some playing especially if we had sexy conversation we were in the pool making out with these
people yeah there’s been plenty of but fondly I was fingering somebody in the pool right right and
test it was really scientific we were testing out silicone lube right where they’re worked in the pool

[20:10] [Phoebe] yes that’s where it was and it worked well it was very effective from what I’ve heard you wouldn’t

[20:16] [Ed] do that on me because I can’t do but yes yes she was otherwise it’s not like we had on realistic
expectations we had pretty moderate expectations yeah and so far not so much which makes so

[20:39] [Phoebe] so then you go okay three thousand four thousand five thousand six thousand whatever you know
you’re up into the thousands of dollars for a vacation right to cook to go do what see hot people
fuck by the pool okay great I can go do that at my local nudist resort for 60 bucks and it takes me

[20:59] [Ed] 10 minutes to get there okay maybe you don’t have that in your area right so then what’s the

[21:08] [Phoebe] incentive these are the questions that I have and I’m we are going to do a bigger episode on that

[21:14] [Ed] like with with an accompanying survey and all that we mentioned that a little bit yesterday yeah
um it these are the questions that make these are the things that make you go hmm it’s almost like

[21:26] [Phoebe] I’ll give you a little preview into some of my personal whole like if you want to spend thousands
of dollars to go get gourmet food from a chef that got you know sucked away from one of the
resorts because he was that good and your every need is catered to and they wash your feet and
give you drink every single time it’s right D and you listen that and the music is getting the

[21:56] [Unknown] entertainment and Cirque du Soleil is there and listen that great then why I mean I could I

[22:04] [Phoebe] basically can do that in Vegas with actually we kind of have done that in Vegas sure there’s
just no sex around the pool to watch there’s no live porn to watch right plenty of people to watch

[22:18] [Unknown] though and sexy people and bikinis and stuff but yeah I don’t know I don’t know okay but whatever

[22:27] [Phoebe] we are struggling oh we’re struggling you can feel and hear the struggle so today oh so
so last night we left the dance party early I was in a funk and I like I need to leave because
my attitude is bringing everybody down I just need to take myself out gave Phoebe her space I
gave myself a time out so so I said later when I’ll have a good time I’m bringing people down so we
got to go um so we went swimming again the bottom pool was oh uh looked gross like we said
black lagoon swampy yeah we said that earlier and so when we went up to the top pool we jumped in
and the security guard came back I already said all this didn’t I don’t think so and he said well
anyway chemicals he said chemicals I’d say shock treatment and he said yes and so we’re like

[23:22] [Ed] but gotta get out yeah we were talking about that at breakfast this morning oh okay but before we got
out of the pool the friends who we’d run into last night mm-hmm also tired who were watching us have

[23:36] [Phoebe] sex they didn’t watch us have sex but they walked by they gave us a rain check on having sex that’s

[23:41] [Ed] right they decided join us join us and uh the husband basically said any who interested in a little
skinny to be and she’s like yeah she starts taking clothes off and they both jumped in the pool
and then the security guard yeah I know the naked people have to get out of the pool and we went
to the murky pool for yeah I was scared her and I were like really we don’t want to get so we

[24:07] [Phoebe] got in her just a tiny bit and then I immediately got out and like showered off because it was just
gross was uh less than sexy yeah I was trying to get the shock treatment off my skin by going into
the dirty pool and then I was like this is equally disgusting we were helping them to maintain the
lower but transferring the chemicals from my book yeah okay my body was the conduit hopefully I
helped but today we we’re doing our own fucking thing we had a spontaneous offer from from our new

[24:43] [Ed] pool friends our skinny dippers yes uh to to go into town a little day drinking a little shopping
little lunch yep um we’re gonna meet them in the lobby in about 30 minutes so pretty much
finish recording and I’ll push this up uh and then we’ll be gone we can imagine that we’ll be
we’ll be out having a jolly good time some new friends all in anticipation of
fucking paving the way to fucking actually having sex can I say fucking another couple again
anymore do you get the picture with Phoebe’s agenda is for today I think she’ll let me in on it

[25:22] [Unknown] but I even woke up dreaming about fucking I we need we need we just need to fly listeners out

[25:32] [Ed] too so I can give back that would be fun I wonder if anybody maybe I just need to create a sign by the
pool that says come fuck me maybe that maybe if you give a fuck stop by please we’re accepting offers

[25:51] [Unknown] like the signs we see we’ll fuck for fun I don’t need food I need money just fine yeah the

[25:58] [Phoebe] fuck free the fucking we’re fun over here please hello that’s what we really need we need to get

[26:05] [Ed] shirts that say hi I’m Ed I’m here to fuck and Phoebe can get the same one because I’m with him

[26:14] [Guest] we’re here to fuck that’s perfect all right are you making note of that because we need to do that
things to do on this vacation item one fuck and two more fucking oh that’d be another good

[26:31] [Ed] t-shirt item three and then we can put little checkboxes on the back if you’re not if you’re not

[26:37] [Guest] interested fucking please leave you can say hi but bring your friends over who do want to

[26:49] [Phoebe] okay so so yeah I’m not sure if a swing or hotel takeover really exist in reality it is
difficult to do I mean just because you’re a swinger doesn’t mean swinging is actually going to
happen but there’s a high likelihood that it would if you are all legit swingers there are not

[27:11] [Ed] all legit swingers here so when we say legit swingers it’s like people who are not just lifestyle

[27:19] [Phoebe] friendly who who enjoy the sexy environment people who are not soft well even soft yeah because

[27:25] [Ed] we we yeah we do like soft none right but I don’t want 50% of the resort being soft and oh maybe
50 could be soft and 50 could be I will take a room of 50 soft but I don’t want 80% of the soft

[27:39] [Phoebe] well I don’t know but soft swappers tend not to commit to here’s the thing we want people who

[27:46] [Ed] will actually participate with other people in a sexual manner exactly if you’re if you’re
just here to be sexy and dance and drink go to a nightclub right but if you’re actually here to
interact with other people and play with other people in some fashion of sex yeah built you
know built clinton fashion of sex just a little oral because blow jobs not real sex fine

[28:16] [Phoebe] and you’re still and you don’t mean six out of seven days to get to know somebody before that
happens or 40 drinks okay anyway I’m bringing you down I’m so sorry so yeah I think I think

[28:35] [Unknown] we should you know maybe kind of wrap that up there we’ve got a little bit of time left before

[28:41] [Phoebe] we got to push this episode up and then we are gonna go have some fun wish us luck yes please
wish us luck give us some encouragement send us some well wishes all of your slutty wishes

[28:54] [Ed] just just push them up into the universe we’re accepting send us the t-shirts

[28:59] [Phoebe] sex karma FedEx quick needle oh my gosh thank you have a great day everyone

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