Things Men Don’t Give A Fuck About

[00:00] [Phoebe] And they’re amazing. They’re a little weird at first. I will say they’re quite strong.
They can be yeah. And it can be cold if you don’t have a heated one.
We don’t so in the winter. It’s a little brish.
It’s quite the morning wake of cold. Oh my god, it’s so cold. So I highly recommend the heated one.

[00:22] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University. Your horizontal enrichment program.
Bringing you sexy lessons for sexy fun. Here are your hosts. Ed and Phoebe.

[00:45] [Phoebe] Hi, this is Ed. And this is Phoebe.

[00:48] [Ed] Today we’re talking about how slutty men really are. But to be a bit more specific,
there are a few things that men just don’t pay any attention to.
Or at least, you know, it’s not on their list of turn-offs.

[01:05] [Unknown] But before we get into that, we have a few business items that we need to jump into.

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[01:55] [Phoebe] I’ve been very quiet.
Very quiet, yes.
I just drank this huge glass of water. I didn’t want to swallow.
And so I was like, God, I can’t say anything, but I really need to swallow.

[02:08] [Ed] Yes, you do.

[02:09] [Phoebe] And more of it.
Our face is in your face.

[02:14] [Unknown] We’re pretty close to coming out in public.
Go ahead.
Yeah.

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[02:40] [Phoebe] Which is why the patrons help.

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[02:52] [Unknown] Yes.

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[03:03] [Phoebe] Yes.
And we have some cool new neon.

[03:06] [Ed] We do.
We have a…

[03:08] [Unknown] Oh!

[03:10] [Phoebe] Leave it as a surprise.

[03:12] [Ed] I guess we should wait.
There’s a little significance with this particular thing.
But we’ll get into that.

[03:20] [Unknown] Yes.

[03:21] [Ed] So stay tuned for new exciting things.

[03:25] [Phoebe] All right.
Some of the things that men don’t give a fuck about are from conversations we had with other fingers.
And a few are just…
Ed.

[03:38] [Ed] That may just be me.

[03:40] [Unknown] I admit.

[03:41] [Phoebe] If you agree with Ed, let us know in the comments, email us or call us.
And you can even leave us a message.

[03:48] [Ed] Which would be super cool.
We’d love to hear your voices because you get to hear our voices all the time.

[03:53] [Phoebe] Exactly.
Okay.

[03:55] [Ed] Phoebe, what’s number one?

[03:56] [Phoebe] Oh my god.
You’re going to make me read it.
Oh, I’m going to make it.
Queing.
Birds of hearts.
Yeah, pussy farts.
I don’t like when that happens.
But…

[04:07] [Ed] That funny little bird noise.

[04:09] [Phoebe] Yeah.
I don’t care if it happens with you, but…
I mean, somebody else…
Well, we’re…
Especially if it’s an orgy.
I don’t know.
It’s not my favorite thing to happen.

[04:21] [Ed] Well, good news, ladies.
It’s not a real fart.
There’s no order that comes with it.
It’s just a funny noise.
And honestly, if you’re the guy that it’s happening to,
it means my dick is inside of you.
I’m really not caring about the noises that are going on.

[04:40] [Unknown] Other than that.

[04:42] [Ed] Yeah, the slurping noises, maybe the moaning and all that other stuff.
100%.
And this kind of goes into the category of…
Funny, which we’ll talk about.

[04:54] [Phoebe] Wait, do you think I’m going to get in trouble for sounding…
Making an almost sex sound.
Well, let’s get our podcast banned.
Oh, I don’t think so.
This episode put down.

[05:04] [Ed] No, it doesn’t work like that.
That’s only most…
There’s social media.
I know.
If there’s any hint of anything.
And I am still on…
I think this is a month now.

[05:15] [Phoebe] Oh, they forgot about you.
Yeah, they’re never bringing you back now.
No.

[05:20] [Unknown] It is officially banned.

[05:23] [Ed] Don’t know.
I wish they’d either just ban me and get it over with
or let me back, but that’s a little thing.
Plenty of noises in general.
So the creaking or funny noises that you make with your mouth or
who like the creaking of the bed.

[05:44] [Phoebe] Oh, I was like…
Not what?

[05:46] [Ed] You’re joint.

[05:47] [Unknown] Creaking of your hip.

[05:50] [Ed] We do know a few ladies who’ve picked replacements, but…

[05:57] [Unknown] Generally, I’m not listening critically to those noises.

[06:02] [Ed] In other words, that funny noise that you make when you’re being fucked,
whatever that noise is, imagine it in your head, play it back,
in your memory auditory realm.

[06:15] [Unknown] Okay.

[06:17] [Ed] The guy who is fighting you at the time that that noise is going on
loves that you’re making a noise.
Any noise.

[06:24] [Phoebe] Any noise.
Which is why I put…
What if there are no noises like none?

[06:32] [Ed] Now I have to come up with an answer.
I know.

[06:36] [Unknown] Because you’ve…

[06:38] [Ed] You know, I think it depends on if it’s the throwing the head from side to side
in clearly physical sexual agony,
even though there’s no noises coming out.
Yeah, I’m alright with that.

[06:54] [Unknown] That’s great.

[06:55] [Phoebe] Okay.

[06:57] [Unknown] But if it’s the totally lying motionless,

[07:02] [Ed] maybe I didn’t get consent,
because she’s making that weird, rigid, kind of uncomfortable thing.

[07:11] [Unknown] Yeah, like…

[07:12] [Phoebe] That would be troublesome.

[07:13] [Unknown] That’s bad.

[07:14] [Ed] Yeah.
That…
Zero feedback.
Okay, yeah.
It tells me there’s something wrong.

[07:20] [Phoebe] Yeah, I get that.
But you gave two very broad ends of the…
Yeah.
The ruler, the spectrum.
No way.
I…
You’re…
More towards the like noises.
The no noises.

[07:38] [Ed] I definitely do enjoy noises.
Yeah.
That is for sure.
Whether it’s dirty talk or just…

[07:47] [Unknown] Yeah.
No noises.

[07:49] [Phoebe] Okay.
Grunting.
Oh, we already did that one.
The O face.

[07:53] [Ed] Yeah.
I have actually heard of women who were concerned about
what their face looks like when it orgasms.

[08:03] [Phoebe] Uh-huh.

[08:04] [Unknown] I don’t get it.

[08:07] [Phoebe] I was.

[08:08] [Ed] Because.
I don’t know what it looked like.
If I’m having sex with you.
It feels like having an orgasm.
I’m not thinking about what your face looks like.
I’m thinking about the fact that I’m giving you an orgasm.
That’s what’s on my mind.
And or…
Is it time for me to come to?
Because maybe that’s what I’m thinking about.
But yeah.

[08:30] [Guest] Yeah.

[08:31] [Ed] Everybody’s got a weird noise when they orgasm.
And a weird face.

[08:36] [Unknown] So just embrace it.

[08:38] [Ed] It’s just…

[08:39] [Unknown] Great.
Yeah.

[08:41] [Phoebe] Awkward experimental positions.

[08:47] [Unknown] Now this is a funny one.

[08:49] [Ed] This one I actually read about.

[08:51] [Unknown] Someone had thought this was a thing for men.
In other words, women like to make the best impression.

[09:03] [Ed] And if they think that they’re making a bad impression
by being goofy or silly because they tried some awkward position.
Okay.
Get where that’s coming from.
But scenario is, I walk into the bedroom.
And a, we’re having sex
because your next statement is,
b, I want to try a new position.
No guy ever in history has ever said,
nah, can we just…
Well, actually there might be some really boring people
that say that.
Just blew my own joke.
Because missionary, you know, I actually kind of enjoy it.

[09:40] [Unknown] But no guys.
Oh, man.

[09:45] [Ed] I don’t even know how to say that
without it being wrong as I’m saying it.
Well, anyway, I think you get the impression.
Men like different positions.
Most of us.

[09:57] [Unknown] Yeah.

[09:58] [Ed] Yeah.
Roll with it.
Have some fun with it.
You want to try something kinky and, you know,
one leg up and sideways and whatever.

[10:06] [Unknown] All right.

[10:07] [Ed] Try that too.

[10:08] [Phoebe] Different things feel different with different people.
There’s this one guy that was doing the side…

[10:15] [Unknown] fucking.
Yeah.

[10:17] [Phoebe] With me.
So like, he, it was basically, look like he was
humping my leg.

[10:21] [Ed] Oh, yeah, yeah.
Where he straddles your bottom leg.
Uh-huh.

[10:25] [Phoebe] And then.
And that felt amazing.
Based on his body structure and equipment he had.
And I was like, ooh, that is a good position.

[10:33] [Ed] I like that one myself.

[10:35] [Unknown] So.

[10:36] [Ed] I get to hump a thigh too.

[10:38] [Phoebe] I like humping thighs.
Hmm.
Missed match boobies.
This is a thing.

[10:45] [Ed] Yeah.
There are women who are very concerned about their breasts
not being 100% symmetrical.

[10:52] [Phoebe] Oh, yeah.

[10:53] [Unknown] I can see that.

[10:57] [Ed] Maybe if it was a really extreme difference.
But I’ve seen a lot of myth.
I’ve watched, I’ve seen a lot of boobs in porn and posted.
And you know what?
A little variation.
Almost all women are not perfectly symmetrical.
Unless you had a really, really good doctor.

[11:16] [Unknown] Right.

[11:17] [Phoebe] Because they make it exact.

[11:19] [Ed] Because they got paid to get it right.
Oh, yeah.

[11:23] [Phoebe] First time.
Yeah.
Definitely.

[11:26] [Ed] The natural boob thing.
First.
Boobs.

[11:31] [Unknown] Boobs.

[11:33] [Ed] Second.

[11:34] [Unknown] See you number one.

[11:37] [Ed] Boobs.

[11:38] [Unknown] Nice.

[11:39] [Ed] Oh, we’re just happy to have boobs.
One bigger than the other.
Big, small, whatever.
Yeah.
Obviously, this is a generalization.
Some people have very specific preferences about breast size.
I do not.

[11:56] [Phoebe] No.
I think you’re kind of unique in that way.

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[13:00] [Unknown] Yeah.

[13:05] [Ed] I’d like a bigger or smaller pointy

[13:07] [Unknown] that kind of like those ski slopey ones.

[13:11] [Phoebe] Oh, yeah.

[13:12] [Ed] I think it was all the 70s part I watched.

[13:14] [Phoebe] Oh, yeah.

[13:15] [Unknown] Cellulite.

[13:19] [Phoebe] Yeah.

[13:20] [Unknown] Yeah.

[13:21] [Phoebe] Yeah.
It’s nice.
You don’t see it.
Can I have the cellulite goggles, please?
Because B, you know.

[13:28] [Ed] I think that’s…
I can imagine that there’s a spectrum here.
And there’s probably a really extreme example.

[13:37] [Unknown] Or there’s some jerk out there that just goes,

[13:41] [Ed] oh, no, that’s just intolerable.

[13:43] [Unknown] Perfect.

[13:44] [Ed] No dimples whatsoever.
Right.
They’re just…
They’re just dimples.
B, there’s so much else to look at
that we’re not paying attention to that at all.

[13:55] [Unknown] Other dimples and hills and valleys.

[13:58] [Ed] And those two very large things right above the thigh
which typically has the cellulite,
that butt hocks in your face is what we’re focused on.
And everything else.
So, you know, we’re not looking for blemishes.
We’re not counting moles.

[14:14] [Phoebe] It’s nice.
Oh, what about my hairy legs or slightly fuzzy legs?

[14:21] [Ed] Also, not a big turnoff for me.

[14:26] [Unknown] I even had a thing for a hippie in college

[14:32] [Ed] that lived down the hall in the dorms.
And I don’t think she shaved almost at all,
but there was something sexy about her.

[14:41] [Unknown] Something sexy.

[14:44] [Phoebe] What about…
What if you don’t shave your hoo-ha?

[14:50] [Ed] See?
Also, for me, that’s so unusual.

[14:55] [Unknown] We actually just finished an email to some listeners
who have written to us.
And we were talking about this exact thing,
which is the differences.

[15:07] [Ed] There are so many shaved naked vulvas in the lifestyle

[15:12] [Unknown] and porn that, you know what,

[15:15] [Ed] finding a nice, hairy snatch is hard to find.
And when I find a woman with a landing strip
or some buzz going on,

[15:28] [Unknown] I have to, like, run this a little bit.
Oh, are we seventies reminiscing

[15:36] [Phoebe] and is snatch a word from the seventies?

[15:39] [Unknown] I don’t know.

[15:41] [Ed] It’s gonna be, though.

[15:42] [Phoebe] I know.
Oh, my God.
I’m dying.

[15:47] [Ed] We’re just gonna use every euphemism for chloroquilism.

[15:51] [Phoebe] Oh, okay.
Fuzzy legs.
lingerie.
Do you really?
I mean, is it worth it?

[15:59] [Ed] Yes.
And no.
See, I’m conflicted with lingerie.
And I think most men are conflicted with lingerie.
You look really good in it.
Like, you pick lingerie
because you know you look hot in it.
Right?
So this is like tailored to you kind of thing.
This is like the outfit you really want to be wearing.
So that’s nice to look at.

[16:25] [Unknown] But, you know, a lot of times we just want to get your naked.

[16:31] [Ed] Well, duh.

[16:34] [Unknown] It ends up being a little bit of a,
what’s the politically correct amount of time

[16:41] [Ed] before I take the lingerie off
because she worked really hard putting that outfit.

[16:45] [Phoebe] I know.
Or he did.
We may have.
Yeah.
He may want her to strut her out a little bit.

[16:51] [Ed] But see, that’s why crotchless lingerie is great
because you don’t even have to take it off.

[16:56] [Unknown] You still get to use it
and use it.
All right.

[17:04] [Ed] That’s really topical based on the last couple of years.
I think it was five extra pounds or ten.
I don’t see that.
For me,
sex sexuality, sexiness,
comes out through the personality.
And, you know, ladies,
if you were in pretty good shape before,
and you added five pounds,

[17:31] [Unknown] or you were in moderate shape,

[17:34] [Ed] and you added five pounds,
it’s not a big enough difference for us to even notice.

[17:39] [Phoebe] No.
I would say ten pounds really isn’t hardly noticeable.

[17:44] [Ed] Yeah.
Most women,
either goes to all the right places
or it gets distributed in some way
that kind of adds a little extra here and there.
For me,
I kind of like the softness and the squeezingness,
not that I wouldn’t love to have a nice hard woman in bed.

[18:05] [Unknown] That would be fun.

[18:08] [Phoebe] It’s a squeezy butt.

[18:10] [Ed] I like squeezing women.
You know, you give them a nice,
deep, long hug.
You know,
it feels good to have.
I know.
For soft.
So, the five extra pounds isn’t necessarily a bad thing, ladies.

[18:27] [Unknown] Like,

[18:29] [Ed] gather a little squeezingness to you.
It’s kind of nice.

[18:34] [Phoebe] It does.
It feels good.
I was surprised.
The soft women are,
um,
when I started really getting into it.

[18:42] [Unknown] Morning, sex.

[18:44] [Phoebe] We look
disheveled.
We have bad breath.
Our mascaras smeared all over our face
because we were too tired to take it off the night before.

[18:55] [Unknown] Yeah.

[18:56] [Ed] Two scenarios there.
Either one,
your mascara,
you were up so late with your mascaras
you were doing something fun and naughty potentially.
So when you wake up in the morning,
the first thing I’m thinking of is
we had a great time last night.
Look, there’s the boner again.
And then we’re having sex again in the morning.
So,
not really thinking about the mascaras
other than a really good reminder of the night before.

[19:25] [Phoebe] Okay.
And,
yeah.

[19:28] [Ed] Just on any other day,
let’s say it wasn’t a crazy wild night,
waking up next to a
a naked woman,
who wants to have sex with you.
Yeah.
Kind of don’t care about the hair
or the makeup or any of that stuff
because we’re having sex.

[19:46] [Unknown] Yeah.
That’s what it comes down to.

[19:49] [Ed] And my breath doesn’t smell any better.
So don’t get all self-conscious

[19:53] [Unknown] because there’s a lot of dragons going on.

[19:57] [Phoebe] Oh my gosh.
Oh,
oh yeah.
So menstrual sex.
This was interesting for me.
I was surprised how many men
are really okay with it.
I want to say about
9 out of 10.
It’s a small, very small pole.
But that I’ve taken.
But I would say most guys are like,
yeah.

[20:21] [Ed] Yeah.
And I can think of
I can remember having
that conversation with a woman
three or four different times.
One of them was in Costa Rica
that first time.
Oh yeah.
Kind of at the tail end.
It might be a little messy.
And I was like,
does it still mean we get to have sex?

[20:43] [Unknown] Okay.

[20:44] [Ed] Then I don’t really care.
And if you play like we do
when you use condoms,
you’re not even getting the blood
except for maybe around the very base.

[20:56] [Phoebe] Right.

[20:57] [Ed] Like, yeah.
It could be messy.

[20:59] [Unknown] Throw a towel down.

[21:01] [Ed] It’s wet.
And it’s slippery.
So it’s still fun.

[21:05] [Unknown] Yeah.

[21:06] [Ed] That’s what it comes down to.
Now I would say,
if you like just started

[21:11] [Unknown] and you’ve got a heavy flow,

[21:13] [Ed] it could look like a murder scene.
Yes.

[21:16] [Unknown] That’s got to turn out.

[21:18] [Ed] But if it’s just a little bit,
not a big deal.

[21:23] [Unknown] Right.

[21:24] [Phoebe] Right.

[21:25] [Ed] I’m just picturing the scene
from American Psycho
and the suit.

[21:30] [Unknown] Anyway.
Oh, golly.

[21:33] [Ed] Terribly dexterous there or something.

[21:35] [Unknown] Miss him.
Okay.

[21:37] [Phoebe] Yeah.

[21:38] [Ed] This last one,
I will admit,
I’m conflicted about this.
So I’m the outlier
from this whole story.
But,

[21:46] [Unknown] and that is,

[21:48] [Ed] but,
but,
anal sex.

[21:52] [Phoebe] Nice lead-in.

[21:53] [Unknown] So,
Phoebe.

[21:57] [Phoebe] I love it.
I feel great.
Great.
I don’t know where that accent came from,

[22:03] [Ed] but, yeah.

[22:04] [Phoebe] It was great.

[22:05] [Ed] You like it enough
where we’ve been playing
with couples before,
and I look over,

[22:10] [Unknown] and,
I’m like,

[22:12] [Phoebe] Baby.
Wait a second.

[22:14] [Unknown] That’s an ass.

[22:19] [Ed] And she’s just,
happy as a client.

[22:21] [Phoebe] Oh, this,
have a hand in the good time.

[22:25] [Ed] It’s just funny.
So,
I’m,
I’m so, so on,
anal sex.
And I think,
because Phoebe loves it so much,
and I know,

[22:36] [Unknown] I’m going to,

[22:37] [Ed] to all the rest of the guys
who are listening to this room,
I never get anal sex.
You’re going to go,
you’re an idiot.

[22:42] [Unknown] Take a bite.

[22:43] [Ed] But,
because Phoebe loves it,
I,
I need to step up
to the plate,

[22:54] [Unknown] and,

[22:55] [Ed] like, fulfill that.

[22:56] [Unknown] Right.

[22:57] [Ed] I’m,
I’m okay with doing it.
I think it’s just,
on those occasions where
it maybe wasn’t,

[23:03] [Unknown] you know,

[23:05] [Ed] the cleanest,
you get,
you have a little accident,
kind of thing,
little,

[23:10] [Unknown] like,

[23:11] [Phoebe] goodness.

[23:12] [Unknown] That,

[23:13] [Ed] has always bothered me,

[23:15] [Unknown] but,

[23:17] [Ed] we now have a bit of a day.

[23:19] [Phoebe] I,
yes.
And I’ve heard that,
you know,
bothers some other guys, too.

[23:25] [Unknown] Yeah.

[23:26] [Phoebe] But, but you’re right.
That’s why they make bidets,
and that’s why we have one.
Right.
And they’re amazing.
They’re a little weird,
at first,
I will say,
they’re quite strong.

[23:38] [Ed] They, they can be,

[23:39] [Phoebe] yeah.
And it can be cold,
if you don’t have a heated one.
We don’t.
So, in the winter,

[23:44] [Ed] it’s,
it’s a little brisk.
It’s,
it’s quite the
morning wake of cold.

[23:49] [Phoebe] Oh my God.
It’s so cold.
So I highly recommend the heated one.
I don’t know how long I’m going to,
how many winners I’m going to tough that out.
But,
um,
it does a really good job.

[24:01] [Unknown] In the summer,

[24:02] [Ed] it’s nice and warm.

[24:03] [Phoebe] I know.
I’m enjoying it.
But not for,
in a few more months,
I’m not.

[24:08] [Unknown] Yeah.

[24:09] [Phoebe] Okay.
So, you know,
he’s just,
make sure you’re clean.
Yeah.

[24:14] [Unknown] And they have other

[24:15] [Phoebe] tools or things for that.

[24:17] [Ed] Sure.
And I know this.
But are quick.
There’s probably some process
that you should go to.
And,
an anal sex,

[24:24] [Unknown] just like,

[24:25] [Ed] on a whim,
without any preparation,
it’s probably risky.
Except for Botox.

[24:29] [Phoebe] Exactly.

[24:30] [Ed] We were,
we were watching
D-coupled.

[24:35] [Phoebe] Oh my gosh.

[24:36] [Ed] And one of the scenes
that the lover wants to,
he’s very well endowed.
And he wants to,
Botox,
the guy’s butt.
Ass.
Whole.
The whole.
Yes.
To make him relax.
And, of course, he freaks out,
because he doesn’t want to be in con for,

[24:57] [Unknown] for a straight.
Yeah.

[25:00] [Phoebe] But I actually did some research on that.
And then there’s like,
there’s the skin,
outlying around,
surrounding skin.
And then there’s the,
the muscle.
And so they,
they’ll do Botox
in both areas.
And you aren’t incontinent.
It doesn’t,
they said it doesn’t,
work like that.
They’re relaxing,
the way they relax it.
You know, it’s not like you have to,
have a colostomy bag
with you everywhere.

[25:30] [Unknown] Good.

[25:31] [Phoebe] And it, of course,
work as fast as they were portraying in the show.
But, you know,
that’s Hollywood.
So it takes what,
I don’t know,
one and a half to two weeks to work.
Yeah.

[25:43] [Ed] Well, there you go.

[25:44] [Phoebe] But yeah, people do it.

[25:45] [Ed] This is the last one.
We threw this one in here.
There are definitely people
who are into this particular.

[25:51] [Phoebe] Yeah, I saw a video for the first time.
But first I met a guy in Costa Rica.
Right.
And we’re in a pool.
And he’s having a conversation
with these,
these other two ladies.
There may have been three ladies there.
And I come up into the conversation
and then it’s going along.
It’s going along.

[26:10] [Unknown] And he’s saying,

[26:12] [Phoebe] how much he wanted,
wants to just be,
be peed on.
And he’s,
and the ladies are laughing.
And I’m thinking he’s saying,
squirting.
And so I keep correcting him.
And I’m like,
oh, it’s not pee.
And then,
because truly in my mind,
I don’t believe it’s pee.
I’m sure there is a portion of pee in there.
Actually, I did.
I read a study.
There is a small amount of urine in there.
But it changes.

[26:43] [Ed] Yeah.

[26:44] [Phoebe] Anyway, back to the story.
Tapping his forehead.
And then he’s like,
motioning his hands,
like rubbing them all over his face.
And I’m like,
oh, yeah, that’d be great.
And so the ladies are laughing.
And so at some point he goes,
no, I literally mean pee.
I want someone to pee on my face.
And I’m like,
oh, I see.
Ta-da.
So I was like,
oh, all right.
And then,
so I had to watch a video last
way to see what this kink was.
And some people want to pee in women’s mouths.
And that is a kink.
It’s a thing.

[27:26] [Ed] And some guys want to pee on or in.

[27:31] [Unknown] Oh, yeah.

[27:32] [Phoebe] I couldn’t pee in anyone’s mouth.
But I think I could pee on someone.

[27:37] [Unknown] In the right conditions.

[27:40] [Ed] And it’s not that bad.

[27:42] [Phoebe] Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn’t do it in front of her.
Crowd.
Maybe not right away.
At least that’s not what I envisioned.

[27:50] [Ed] One.
And I think.

[27:52] [Unknown] I think the thing that makes it strange for me
is thinking about participating in that.

[28:02] [Ed] But it doesn’t really turn me on.
So it’s not a school thing.
It would be more of somebody else wanted this.
So, okay.

[28:10] [Phoebe] I, I look at it as,
as a, like,
that dumb position,
position of power.
And that would give me pleasure.
Oh.

[28:21] [Unknown] And then.

[28:23] [Ed] It might actually enjoy it.

[28:25] [Phoebe] Yes.

[28:26] [Ed] Oh, look at you.

[28:28] [Phoebe] It’s, it’s a position of power.
You get to step into that.

[28:32] [Ed] I’m stopping you at the anal.

[28:34] [Phoebe] Oh, boy.

[28:35] [Ed] I will help you explore that more.
Besides being uncomfortable.

[28:39] [Phoebe] Oh, you don’t want to be peeing on.

[28:41] [Ed] I am not going.
Oh, I’m not going to the whiteboard.
Maybe in the shower when we’re sitting there, you know,
showering together.
You maybe I’ll let you pee on my foot.

[28:52] [Phoebe] Oh, oh, I see.

[28:54] [Unknown] But that’s not really sexual at that point.

[28:56] [Phoebe] That’s not quite the same.
I’m just, what if I’m standing on a boat or in the middle of the ocean,
and I’m peeing off the side of the boat and a little bit of spittle hits you?

[29:07] [Ed] Look, I learned from a very young age,
you don’t pee into the wind.

[29:12] [Phoebe] Well, what if I forget I can’t help it?
And then you get peed on.
How would you be all right with that?
You’re going to have to be.

[29:19] [Ed] You’re just going to have to be on the boat and try it.

[29:21] [Unknown] Yeah.

[29:22] [Phoebe] Yeah.
Because you’re not jumping off to get clean.
You’re not going to drive that thing.

[29:27] [Unknown] Yeah.

[29:29] [Phoebe] Oh my goodness.
So ladies, we all know we get in our head about the kind of impression we want to make.
Hopefully you can take these things off your list of worries
because the men around you just don’t think about them as much as we do.
They want us.
And we’re sexy.
So relax and enjoy the attention.

[29:52] [Unknown] Oh, one last thing before you go.

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