House Party With An Awkward Game, And A Bad Outcome For Phoebe

[00:03] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program, providing you
lusty lifestyle lessons. Here are your hosts, Ed and Phoebe. Hi, this is Ed. And this is Phoebe.

[00:23] [Ed] Today we’re talking about how networking at events gets you house party dates
and exclusive parties. More and more couples are branching out and hosting in their homes.

[00:41] [Unknown] Lucky us. Yeah, lucky us. We’ve been in the lifestyle for long enough now where we’ve kind of
seen things kind of grow and shrink and grow. Yes. And I’m not just talking about certain things

[00:58] [Ed] at the parties, but the lifestyle community has kind of shifted just in the brief time. And I
say brief because we’ve interviewed swingers who’ve been in the lifestyle for like 20 or 30 years.
And we’ve met couples who’ve been in lifestyle for 20 years. We haven’t interviewed. But yeah,

[01:21] [Unknown] it’s always changing. Always, always. So, you know, we came into the lifestyle at a time where

[01:33] [Ed] there were lots of hotel parties, lots of takeovers, there were several venues,
like established for several years kind of venues. Yes, long standing established,
house parties. And most of those are gone. Yeah. Most of those are gone. I know.
And even the hotel parties aren’t quite the size that they used to be. They used to be like
monthly events when we first started. Yeah. And we were spending an awful lot of time and money

[02:09] [Unknown] having great times at hotel parties. Yes. But as you know, things change and people change

[02:18] [Phoebe] and venues change and society changes and all that. This is why you have to stay on top of your

[02:23] [Ed] game and just keep networking, networking, networking. And networking is really important everywhere in
life, right? Career, friends, lifestyle. Like it’s all really important to make connections and
make friends because you don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow. And it’s important to kind of
keep those people who you run into close. So, you know, you meet an interesting couple or you
meet interesting friends, like you want to keep that going. Right. It’s just it’s a skill that

[02:59] [Phoebe] you already know or if you don’t know, if you know it, you just continue to do it. If you don’t

[03:05] [Ed] know it, get good at it. Right. And it’s it’s good to get better at networking. Right. And I will

[03:13] [Phoebe] say I wasn’t I wasn’t really good at this. And my job networking skills suck. But we’ve gotten
really good at this finger networking. And now we’re like finally in our groove. I think after
eight years, not that it’s going to take everyone eight years to get there. But no, some people are

[03:33] [Ed] better at it than us. We were introverts when we started. Yes. And now now we’re extreme extroverts.

[03:39] [Phoebe] No, we’re not. But we are definitely way more confident. Yeah. Comfortable. Like we’re finally

[03:51] [Ed] comfortable in our swing or skin. So to speak, because you know, we know what to kind of expect

[03:58] [Phoebe] now. So it’s like, oh, yeah, that. Oh, yeah, sure. We’ve been there. It’s like with anything,
you know, you get less nervous. The more you you do something. Right. It starts to get comfortable.
Sure. Right. Yeah. So we we went to a glow party, a local hotel takeover hotel party. I don’t
know if they take over the hotel, but it was a local hotel party. It was a glow party theme. Right.
And after the party, which is always so much fun. And a complete surprise because we didn’t

[04:33] [Ed] plan on the after party. Yeah. This was someone we’d met before, briefly, and they reintroduced
themselves and threw an invitation our way. And we said, sure. Sure. Let’s go for it. Yes.
So it was we kind of stumbled into an after party, not literally like stumbled, like not drunk
stumbled, but just surreptitiously stumbled. But these are where the connections come in, right?

[05:04] [Phoebe] Because people recognize you. They’re like, Oh, hey, how’s it going? Right place right time. Can

[05:09] [Unknown] it happen to have? Why don’t you stop by thing? So we went to this after party. And we’d met

[05:18] [Ed] this, like I said, this couple, well, one of the people in the couple, it was a single two
singles who’d gotten together for the party. Right. And low and behold, we’re in this after party.
And we heard a knock on the door. Yeah. Come on in. Because, you know,
because there was a sign on the door, there was a pineapple, a blinking pineapple sign on the door,
which of course is an invitation, a very open invitation for anybody to come knocking. And this
couple happened to be a little adventurous, not really nervous. They were interested in meeting
other people. And clearly the party wasn’t over for them. They’re like, Hey, this door looks

[06:03] [Phoebe] interesting. Yeah. Well, let’s go inside. I know. And she was way more bold than than I. I don’t know
if I would do that. But now I’m like, hell yeah, I’m going to do that. Yeah, we need to start

[06:14] [Ed] our page out of her book, for sure. We want to have to lose, right? You open the door. You

[06:19] [Phoebe] assess the room and you’re like, Hey, just checking it. You know, you can make a decision to stay
or go. Absolutely. In the moment, you can comment. Most times people come in, come on in some
handshake, some hugs. But, you know, they’re a little high occasions where they’re like, I’m
sorry, it’s a private party. It’s just the four of us. We’ve got some, you know, new people. And
we’re like, sure, sure, no problem. Right. Yeah. I mean, people are pretty honest. So absolutely.
I mean, and then you just, and then, you know, there’s just said, you know, Hey, we, we heard

[06:53] [Ed] something was going on in the room. You sounded fun. We just thought we’d say hi. And you just

[06:59] [Phoebe] move on to the next room. Yeah, they just knock on every door after that. Tick, tick, tick,

[07:04] [Ed] whether they have a pineapple or not. Yes. So this, this couple knocked and, you know,
they came in, they came in and it had fun. It started with two couples and then turned into
three couples and then they knocked and it became four couples in the room. They were attractive
people. They were fun. They were open-minded. And it was a great time. It was a great time. We

[07:32] [Phoebe] all had a good time. We, of course, exchanged contact information. Because why not? Exactly.
They were fun. Let’s have more fun. Right. And then we, do we reach out to them first and say,

[07:49] [Ed] Hey, or did they reach out to us first? We followed up. So once again, following good networking
practices, we followed up after we’d met them and said, Hey, we had a great time. You know, we
looked through the guest list of who is at the party. We found their profile. We sent them a
message. Oh, that’s right. Yeah. And that’s my standard MO. Right. Yep. So, you know, you meet a
couple and you reach out to them after an event after a party and just say, Yep. You know,
it was a really nice meeting you, assuming, of course, that you want to reach out to them. Right.

[08:23] [Unknown] Right. Have a second encounter. Yeah. And that’s it. It’s just a simple message. Yeah. And that

[08:29] [Ed] basically opens the door. Yep. They know that you know that they know that you like them.
We know and everyone knows. We everybody knows. So we kind of exchange contact information.
Because our profiles were there. Yep. And shortly after that, they sent us an invite saying,
Hey, we’re thinking about having a house party. Yeah. Would you be interested in coming? And we
said, I’m always interested in coming. So just tell us where and when. And of course, I said

[09:06] [Phoebe] absolutely. Here are the, here are the best three dates in our calendar. And I gave them specific

[09:15] [Ed] dates. Right. And and we, we of course, followed up with that because it felt a little forward,
like we were proposing when they should have their party. We’re open to anything. But these were

[09:26] [Unknown] great for us. Anyway. Yeah. So they ended up picking one of those dates, which worked out great

[09:33] [Ed] for us. So we put it on the calendar immediately. Yeah. And this is the key to this. When you hear

[09:40] [Unknown] about opportunities where people are having house parties, start networking because your normal

[09:49] [Ed] venue may dry up when we were in Colorado, the house party there that was very established,
several of them. There was some crazy political stuff going on in that community. And some of
those house parties were getting shut down. So they were established parties. Right. People could
count on them until they couldn’t count on it anymore because they got shut down. So it’s,
it’s key to kind of keeping the community alive by networking and shipping contacts. And
you know what? You never know what’s going to happen. Right. And sometimes these house parties,

[10:28] [Phoebe] these little parties are a lot of fun. They’re usually, yeah, typically are. Yeah. And I always put

[10:36] [Ed] the date on the calendar anyway. And I follow up. Yep. Penciling in. Right. Because what happened

[10:43] [Phoebe] was they said they’re going to have a party. I put it on the calendar. But you never really know
for sure. But it’s on the calendar as a holding placeholder, right? Yeah. Until you’re naked in

[10:55] [Ed] their living room, you don’t know if it’s actually happening. Right. And you make other plans for the

[11:00] [Phoebe] weekend in case that one falls through something that you can cancel. You know, that’s that’s fluid.
And we followed up with them before they confirmed with us that it was really happening. Right.
Because they had posted the party about good two weeks out. And so we followed up with them,

[11:16] [Ed] hey, just checking in or even more. I think it may have been like a month in advance, which
was fantastic. Because it gives people plenty of time to make arrangements and have those connections.

[11:27] [Phoebe] Anyway. So we checked in with them about four days ahead. And they confirmed, which was usually
I like to do a week ahead. But I waited. And then they said, absolutely, we’re still holding it.
So we go, we get there early because they said we were super anxious. I mean, yeah. And they said,
make sure you’re here before 1030 because we don’t want to answer the door after that. We’re going
to be having some fun. Right. We don’t want to be, you know, giving the tours and things like that.
And there was a fair amount of people there. And we were surprised. They were actually way more

[12:00] [Unknown] people there. At that time, then we thought we’re going to be there. We thought it was a small

[12:04] [Ed] gathering of like six couples. Yeah. And at, you know, we were, I think we were the first couple
that was there. But more couples showed up as within like the first hour. Oh, I guess we were.

[12:15] [Phoebe] The other couples that show up after that were more introverted and very, very quiet. Yes. The first,

[12:24] [Ed] the first two couples that showed up right after us were. So it was a little nervous because

[12:30] [Phoebe] English was a second language. And so a little bit of language barrier and a little bit of cultural
differences and then introversion on top of that more introverted than us, which is, which is
terrifying. Right. And so we were struggling to keep the conversation going, you know,
you ask a lot of questions and stuff like that. And they were just so, they looked so nervous

[12:52] [Ed] that it was just a bit uncomfortable. And it’s interesting because it’s hard to tell if they’re
actually nervous or if they’re just so quiet. Yeah. That they just come across as being.
Or they just think you’re fucking ugly and they could be that too. I mean, I get that all the time.

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[14:11] [Unknown] really appreciate it. Thanks for listening. So let’s see. Yeah. Then more people started showing

[14:25] [Ed] it. Yeah. Yeah. I’m starting pouring drinks. People started snacking a little bit. And about

[14:31] [Phoebe] God, what was about 30 people were there? 30 people? Yeah, probably about that. 30, 20, 30 people.
Yeah. Way more than we thought, which was great. So the extroverts arrived. And so there
was introvert and more introverts arrived. So there was something for everybody, right? Everyone
kind of just gelled. And they got louder and people started having more fun. Drink, yeah,
you said drinks, food, all that. Oh, yeah. And this party had no donations at the door. You

[14:59] [Ed] don’t even have to bring your own alcohol books. Some people did. Yeah. And the crowd,
like Phoebe was saying, pretty good mix of different people. Some very new people, some people
who like this was their first house party. And some other people who were much more experienced,
including one of our friends who we’ve interviewed before who host her own parties.
We’re pausing for a few minutes because Phoebe was getting very hot and had to go strip off

[15:38] [Unknown] some of her clothes. Phoebe’s back and she’s wearing much less clothes than she started with.

[15:46] [Ed] I am. I was sweating. Oh, my God. I totally appreciate it. Yeah, fleeces is not the

[15:52] [Unknown] appropriate clothing for recording this. Well, the weather’s changing. And so, you know,

[15:58] [Phoebe] that awkward in between right after summer, right before fall. It’s hot. The day is freezing at
night. You’re in between your sweater, short sweater. I had on like five changes of clothes.
Just get naked, honey. I know. I just just be a nudist during this time. Or just I may

[16:19] [Ed] maybe always. Yeah, just, yeah, just take your clothes off. Where were we? All right. So,
so yeah, the, the couples started kind of connecting in terms of social connecting. And so the
shy couples kind of grouped together and they were having conversations. And it was the quiet side
of the room, the kitchen at this particular point. And then the loud people, the super
outgoing extroverted people were on the other side of the kitchen. And it was probably about an

[16:54] [Unknown] 80, 20 split in terms of the room. Then we all moved to the, we got to get to the good stuff.

[17:00] [Phoebe] Yeah, we’re going to get to the good stuff. Yeah, we got to go. So living room. Yes. So we moved

[17:05] [Unknown] to the living room. Dun, dun, dun. They had a dice game that I was nervous about. And one of my

[17:12] [Phoebe] friends that had actually showed up to the party. I knew she’s going to show up. I said, I’m not
really into the the whole game. Swinger game thing. And she’s like, oh, we don’t have to play.

[17:22] [Unknown] She’s like, I’m just going to go to the hot tub when they start to play and go, okay, great.

[17:26] [Phoebe] I’ll join you. So I had someone in my corner to hang out with. But because to be clear,

[17:34] [Ed] because Swinger games often feel like put your keys in the fish bowl. Yeah. And you pull the
keys out and whoever keys you get are, that’s the woman that you get to take to the bedroom kind

[17:47] [Unknown] of thing. Like the old school stereotype, forced, junior high school participation kind of a thing.

[17:54] [Phoebe] Awkward. Yeah. They have that feeling. And we have had friends go to Vegas for some of these
parties. I don’t know. It’s a hotel party kind of a thing that had a party, the game thing.

[18:08] [Ed] And it literally was like a key party. Yeah. Where they were like, oh, hell no,
because we see that the crazy, I’d weird, man, Keeney wearing dude in the corner, he’s going to get
my name out of the bowl. And I’m going to have to make the choice to sleep with that guy.
Well, I mean, not me personally, but the girls, the women that we were talking to. And one of the

[18:33] [Phoebe] guys, I guess, didn’t shower. Yeah. He didn’t smell very clean at all. Yeah. Some of them run to
the cheese. Having a real big issue with that, which I understand. So the whole thing was not
sexy. And they were all trying to plan their exit strategy to get away from this game.

[18:55] [Ed] And the long and short of it is, you don’t have to plan an exit strategy. Just get the
out. Just run. Just run. So games at swing or parties can go really poorly. And actually, even

[19:11] [Phoebe] this game that we played, it started slow is a little awkward. Right. But I think part of it was
the mood wasn’t really like the lighting in the living room wasn’t the best. It wasn’t a cozy
environment that the living room had vaulted ceilings and and the seating wasn’t accommodating

[19:31] [Unknown] most of the people. So you didn’t, it didn’t really envelop everybody. And part of it too. Okay,

[19:39] [Ed] so to kind of back up a little bit, you’re going to play a game. The game is a game of chance.
And this particular game was rolling two dice. Yeah. So one of the dice was an action. And then
the other die was a body part. If I remember right, something along those lines. It was kind of like

[20:01] [Unknown] kiss a neck or suck a nipple or yeah. So here you have a random chance of rolling something and

[20:14] [Ed] then having to pick someone from a room who you’ve just met, uh-huh, mostly just met. Or yeah.
There was one other person in the room who two, sorry three, a couple and our single friend
who we had met before and actually played before. And so for us, everybody else was brand new.
We’d either seen them at an event or never met them before kind of a thing. So here we go.
Dice are rolled. Yeah. People pick and luckily, like the host picked someone that they knew and
they were comfortable with. And so it kind of softened it a little bit and it kind of opened the

[20:58] [Phoebe] room up. They gave, they, they, they did say though. If you’re not comfortable, then you know,
you don’t have to or you can change it to something you’re comfortable with. So if you don’t want to
suck the dick of a random stranger that you just met five minutes ago, you could maybe go kiss them

[21:16] [Ed] or or just nibble on their neck or nibble on their neck. Yeah. At least it kept the engagement

[21:21] [Phoebe] active so that no one, not everyone just stepped out of the game. It lowered the bar a little bit.

[21:29] [Ed] So that you didn’t feel so on the spot. Yes. But here’s the thing. So even if you have the option
to opt out and this is why games are kind of a risky move at a party because everybody gets to opt
out. Well, the first couple rolls and the first couple that they pick opt out. So then the next
person rolls and the next couple opt out. Yeah. Then no one’s playing. If everybody’s opting out,

[21:54] [Phoebe] then there’s really not a game. That was the point. Exactly. So thankfully there were some slutty

[21:59] [Ed] people there and we all decided to play. Yes. And we were all in. My friend, the one I was counting

[22:07] [Phoebe] on as my wing woman who was supposed to go run to the hop tub as soon as the game started. She’s
all in. She was all in on the second round. Oh, yeah. She’s taking her clothes off. She’s doing lap
dances. Oh my god. Well, if she’s in now, I have to be in. Yeah. Which wasn’t terrible for me.

[22:25] [Ed] Oh, no. It was, well, it was terrible for me too. You had me and some other guy in your mouth.

[22:32] [Phoebe] It was terrible. Yes. So I got the roll the. I hate sharing. Suck a dick. I think I said that
earlier. So I was very fresh on my head. And it was very nice. Yeah. He was very cute. And
his dick was very nice. And it was very fun. And so then I had his dick in one hand and then you

[22:56] [Ed] somehow magically your pants go off. I think my pants always just fall off. I don’t understand.

[23:01] [Phoebe] And then all of a sudden I was doing two dicks at almost at the same time. It was so much fun and
fabulous. And then his wife was sitting on the chair kind of behind him. And so I looked over
and I looked at her and I motioned her for her to come over because I really wanted her to be part

[23:17] [Unknown] of it because she looked a little uneasy. Oh, she was playing with herself. Oh, she what?

[23:22] [Phoebe] Oh, yeah. She was touching herself. Oh, okay. Now I don’t feel so bad. But that uncomfortable
look on her face was pleasure. The pain pleasure. Yeah. Okay, good. Okay, good. So yes. So she came
over. I just wish I had had had her mouth on her husband’s dick at the same time mine. Oh, yeah.
I was but I was just I was having so much fun between two dicks. I didn’t feel like sharing.

[23:47] [Ed] Right. And they they were a newer couple. And so it was it was nice that they were participating
in playing despite the fact that they were fairly new. I know. But you know, once again with what

[24:01] [Unknown] husband isn’t going to turn down a blow job from from Phoebe or any woman for that matter.

[24:09] [Phoebe] Yes. Yes. Oh, my God. So it so the party has officially started. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Still a little awkward in the in the wings kind of right. Right. The wherever most of the

[24:22] [Ed] people were sitting. Yeah. Because there were a couple dice rolls where it was like, uh, no,
we’re going to pass. And there were a couple other couples that kind of passed. And we understand
later why one of them passed. But anyway, it it worked out, but it was a little awkward at first.
Yes. But it’s once the close started coming off and the playing started happening. We of course
got the terrible idea to just ask the other couple to just go to the other room. Oh, yeah. You

[24:54] [Phoebe] know what? We’re tired of playing games. Let’s play some games. Yes. So that was me saying, let’s go.

[25:02] [Ed] To the bedroom now. Absolutely. So that got started. So we went

[25:08] [Phoebe] and then everyone else followed, which was great because that party needed to get started. Yes.
So we went to the bedroom. And like I said, everyone else followed up. There was two rooms that
people were playing in. But there was a lot of watching in our room. Yeah. A lot of people kind

[25:24] [Ed] of standing on the sides and watching and a couple blow jobs on the side. Right. They kept

[25:28] [Phoebe] flicking on the light, which bugged me. Well, because they would lean against the wall.

[25:33] [Unknown] The light switch. Yeah. There’s a little butt-dialing of the light switch. Yes. Anyway, that was annoying.

[25:39] [Phoebe] But still had a great time. There was two, four, six people on that. I it was six people on the bed.
But then I don’t know. There must have been 10 or 15 people in that small bedroom.
Yeah. There were a lot of people in the bedroom standing around watching and stroking and

[25:57] [Ed] sucking and touching. Yeah. All the good things going on. All the good feels.

[26:07] [Phoebe] Oh, I do want to say we met this couple and they were super sexy. Why? Because they were so engaging.
They were so engaging with their conversation and their confidence that I was just taken by them.

[26:30] [Ed] I really was. They were just great people genuine. Right. And once again, pictures do not do
you justice on these websites. Right. You got to meet people. You have to meet them in person

[26:42] [Phoebe] because their conversation, their intellect, their humor, the things that you’re into
is so it makes a huge difference. Oh yeah. Personality is key to all of this. Yeah.

[26:56] [Ed] So if you have a terrible personality, you’re fucked. Yeah. You might still be fucked.
But yeah, having a good personality and having confidence makes a tremendous difference in terms
of how you present that first impression. Oh my god. After five, ten minutes of conversation,
I was like really into them. Oh yeah. I was like, oh my god. In fact, I hope we meet them again.
Oh yeah, we’ll meet them again. We’ve seen them twice now at parties and we didn’t get to play
with them that night. No. Well, there was, there were extenuating circumstances with her that night.

[27:32] [Phoebe] Oh yeah, that’s right. Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes,
as ladies have, have, aren’t always available. Yes. Even though we want to be.
Not this week, next week. Yes. So the night was great. Yeah. As as we said, there was a bunch of

[27:52] [Unknown] soft swap. Oh my god. It was mostly soft swap. Yes. That’s true. Sorry. Go ahead.

[27:58] [Ed] It was mostly soft swap and the new couple who Phoebe had been sucking earlier. Oh yes.
They played next to us on the bed, but we didn’t get to engage with them, but they were clearly
having their time and it was very hot and sexy. And we really hope we run into them again.
Yes. Because they’re a very cute couple. But yeah, it was, it was fun and sexy and it was,
it was great to have that many people in a room. Everybody kind of having their own time.
Right. But everybody being in close proximity. So it was a lot of fun. Right.

[28:32] [Phoebe] Now, some of the not so hot moments of the evening, because we have to balance that good with the
bad. There’s always a con. There’s always a con in the evening, but you always make the best of it.
One of the partners was, didn’t, I didn’t get kissing. I didn’t get oral. I just got, you know,

[28:57] [Guest] face down. Here’s why we sail on Virgin. It’s adults only. No kids screaming at breakfast,
no family buffet lines, just champagne at noon, late night pool parties, and people who actually
want to be there. The vibe, think boutique hotel that happens to float. Tattoo parlors, drag brunch,

[29:29] [Unknown] restaurants you’d actually pay for on land. Plus, when you’re looking to connect with other

[29:34] [Guest] couples who know how to have fun, let’s just say Virgin attracts a very specific type of adventurous.
No wonder bread cruisers here. Just your people.

[29:50] [Ed] Face down. That’s the way we like to. Oh, sorry. My high school too. I just popped out. Yes. And I

[29:57] [Phoebe] don’t mind that position, but if that is the only position, and that’s all I get for the night,
I’m sorry. I’m not your fucking glory hole. Right. Right. So I was a little little like disappointed
and miffed that that’s all I got. So anyway, that’s all I have to say about that, but I’m not your

[30:20] [Ed] fucking glory hole. Yes. Yes. That’s a t-shirt. We’ll be releasing t-shirts very soon. Yeah.

[30:27] [Unknown] Oh my gosh. And then, oh my gosh, it doesn’t want me to bring this up, but I’m going to try and do

[30:33] [Phoebe] it delicately. It’s a good point. It is a good point. So there was this couple that we had played with
about a year ago at a party. And it was one of the hotel after parties, I believe. And he, you know,
as we’ve talked about many, many times, the night is long. You’ve had a, you know, a drink.

[30:54] [Unknown] Dark. It’s the room is dark. Yeah. You know, and this is a common issue with with men in your,

[31:01] [Ed] you know, and condoms and condoms. So he had some ED issues that night. Right. Yeah.

[31:11] [Phoebe] For whatever reason, maybe he was really tired. I don’t know, you know, it all plays. It all

[31:17] [Unknown] has a factor. This is why you have to take a nap. You know, so that you’re up and awake and ready
for a long evening. Don’t drink too much. And maybe have some red bull something, right? Right.

[31:30] [Phoebe] So he felt really bad about it. I was, I’d said, don’t feel bad. I mean, this, this is very
common. And I was gracious to him. He felt terrible. And I didn’t make a big deal out of it.
I really didn’t know because I don’t want to bruise that he go of a man, right? And I let it go.
And honestly, I’ve forgotten about it. Low and behold, that same guy is at the party.

[31:56] [Unknown] The first thing out of his mouth was, oh my god, he brings it up. I’m so sorry. He’s like, I

[32:03] [Phoebe] remember that time when we were together and I couldn’t get it up and I couldn’t fuck you. And

[32:08] [Ed] then and then and I was like, what? Wait, that was you. Wait, wait. I told him. Holy for God. Holy

[32:15] [Phoebe] for God. So he did himself a disservice, bring it back up. He literally dug the skeleton out of
the closet and put it out on display. And if he hadn’t, I would have never remembered. No, never
remembered. And so I thought, okay, just let it go. Okay, just let it go. And I didn’t add to the
conversation because I thought it would just be best for it to just let it die. But he kept
bringing it. He went on and on and on. And I’m like, dude, this is not sexy. And it’s
self-fulfilling itself. Yes. And then you’re like, wait, you’re like subconsciously reinforcing.
Yes. Exactly. So I was trying to stop him so he would stop reinforcing the negative.
It was awkward. Yeah. So here we are in that room. I’m standing next to Ed. I see him coming across
the room. Denning it. Be lining it. Like a rocket towards me. And he goes, I really want a second
chance with you. I really want a second chance with you. I’m like, okay, sure. Dun dun dun.

[33:31] [Ed] What do you think happened? Yeah. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[33:35] [Phoebe] Yeah, it was terrible. I felt so bad. I’m like, dude, you can’t. You can’t say that stuff.

[33:42] [Ed] Right. Like, you gotta let it go. You gotta get it out of your head.

[33:46] [Phoebe] And move on. And move on. So anyway, please, please, please, please, we’re very,
women are very forgiving. We’re very, you know, most women are very forgiving.
Yeah. I am. Like, I’m a realist. Like, it’s like, I always give people a second third chance.
Right? Because shit happens. Yeah.

[34:04] [Ed] Shit happens. Right? It’s not a big deal. And learn from it. Move on. Yeah. And

[34:12] [Phoebe] Oh my god. I felt so bad for him. I, yeah. But you know what? There won’t, there won’t be a third

[34:18] [Ed] time. Good. I’m sorry. Yeah. Because now? Now it’s in your head. Now it’s stuck in my head.

[34:27] [Phoebe] Right. Because the conversation beforehand, and the second time,
if there wasn’t a, honestly, if there wasn’t a conversation about it and it happened the second time,

[34:37] [Ed] you may not, you wouldn’t have even remembered. I wouldn’t have remembered. And there would be

[34:41] [Phoebe] a third time. Because the first time I didn’t remember. Yeah. Anyway. And the second time,
the third time would have actually been a second time. And then it would have, right?
Right. You all get the point.

[34:52] [Ed] Right. And the final lesson for the night is the not hot. Oh my god. Oh my god.

[35:02] [Unknown] Everybody. Oh my god. Oh my god. Okay. So rule number one. Don’t smoke other people’s

[35:09] [Phoebe] pot. Yes. Oh my god. So we felt comfortable with the house guests. Yeah. Most of the people

[35:20] [Ed] had gone home. Everyone had gone naked in the kitchen. There was one other couple there that
brought this infused something. Something. Wondered joint. Some wondered. It was look store

[35:32] [Phoebe] purchase. So I felt confident about it. I thought, well, I hadn’t been taking anything. I hadn’t
been drinking. Oh well, I had drank a little bit that night, just a little bit, but not a lot.

[35:44] [Unknown] And I thought I’ll just take a drag. Well, I ended up picking a big drag. Right.

[35:50] [Phoebe] And immediately no joke, you guys. No joke. Like with 100% regretted it within 30 seconds. I was like,
oh, shit. That was bad. This is going to be bad. I knew it. So I went to the bathroom. I immediately
felt sick. Nothing happened. Then I was dizzy. The room was spinning. This is all a matter of like
two, three minutes. And I’m very sensitive to any kind of anesthesia, you know, medicines, things
like that. So I’m like, this is going to be a fucked up night. Thankfully, thankfully, it was

[36:23] [Ed] after the party. Like, god, thankfully, this wasn’t like at the beginning of the party.
This was after we had a really good time and it was a great evening and we were winding down for
the evening. We just didn’t expect for Phoebe to be winding down by crashing and burning by

[36:41] [Phoebe] spinning out of the room. Yeah. And you all know what it’s like and the spinning. And you know,
it takes several hours and all of that. And it was miserable. And thankfully, they had a
despair bedroom for us to stay in that night because there was no way I was going to get in a car

[36:57] [Unknown] because that would have been horrible. So, you know, we slept it off and got up the next morning.

[37:04] [Phoebe] But I swear to God that resided. There was residual effects three days later. And to this day,

[37:11] [Ed] I don’t know what’s up. It’s it’s exactly like being hung over. Oh my god. It’s like two so bad day,

[37:17] [Phoebe] two after you’ve had like a really bad night. Never again. Uh-huh. No, not going to do it. No
strange pot. I took a risk and it did not it did not bowed well for me. So in conclusion,

[37:33] [Ed] don’t you drugs. Okay. Oh, I have I have the worst. I have alcohol so much easier to control.
Well, because you can only drink so much so quickly. I guess if you were just throwing shots back,

[37:49] [Phoebe] but that’s pretty obvious. Yeah, I’m always slower and I don’t know. And and with with pot, it’s like

[37:56] [Ed] you’re one cookie away from a really bad experience or a really big inhale. And I’ve had this
experience too. Uh-huh. Where I’ve got a pretty big lung capacity. Oh yeah. And yeah, just don’t

[38:13] [Unknown] suck that hard on the. Just saying. I know. So bad things can happen. But people are just probably,

[38:22] [Phoebe] yeah, we’re we’re dorks. I know you’re all probably laughing at us. Like, oh my god.

[38:26] [Ed] Mistake. But so besides not taking other people’s weed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s really important

[38:35] [Guest] that you make those connections with people. Ask them questions. Where have you been? What parties

[38:42] [Ed] do you like? Have you been here or there? Because they’re going to come up with new ideas for
different parties or they’re going to remember who and invite you to their party. Right. And don’t

[38:52] [Phoebe] feel like it’s, you know, exclusive party ever. I mean, it’s not like they’re going to. Oh,
we can’t tell you because we’re an exclusive group. No, most of the time they want to meet new

[39:04] [Unknown] sexy people. Yeah, always. We never run into that. Give them your contact information, obviously,

[39:12] [Ed] and get theirs, which is a super important tip because if people don’t return your, you know,
don’t contact you, then you’re kind of left hanging, but you’ve got their contact information.

[39:24] [Phoebe] You can kind of keep the conversation flowing. Yeah. And then that way you can follow up because
they’ve forgotten that your card or information is. Or they lost it for. Stuck in the wash and
the jeans. Yeah, I know. I swear that’s where all of our cards are. Could be. Say yes to house

[39:41] [Ed] parties. Even if you know you can’t play that night, it’s always a chance to network. Absolutely.

[39:48] [Phoebe] I’ve done it several times and that other couple that I said was like super hot after five,
10 minutes. That was the same thing. They were there networking. Yep. Couldn’t play that night.
They made friends. They connected with us. They had great fun. Yeah. I know. And then, you know,
consider hosting your own party. It doesn’t have to be a big party. It could be just a couple

[40:13] [Ed] couples or even just one couple and get started. Get your feet, get your feet wet. Exactly.

[40:21] [Unknown] And potentially other things. Oh, yes. All right. Thanks to people. Thanks for listening. Thank you.

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