Desire Resort Research: Temptations vs. Desire Maya vs. Desire Pearl Compared

[Guest] You're listening to Swinger University with Ed and Phoebe[Guest] Offering you the naked facts about swinging[Guest] Here are your hosts Ed and Phoebe[Ed] Hello, this is Ed and this is Phoebe[Ed] Today we are comparing and contrasting the difference between three resorts[Ed] Temptations, Desire Riviera Maya, and Desire Purl[Ed] We talk about food, entertainment, cost, resort-size, and[Ed] the most important thing, the percentage of Swinger opportunity[Phoebe] Absolutely[Phoebe] We'd also like to add that this is our own independent research and we're not being compensated for this review[Ed] Had it which we were being compensated for this review or any of them, but no[Phoebe] We're going to go in order of resort, which is oldest and newest it also happens to be[Phoebe] more affordable to more expensive and[Unknown] each[Phoebe] review is going to have a section[Phoebe] What the resort is like what the demographic is like the types of themes[Phoebe] Entertainment and music provided what the food, pool, hot tub, and swinging is[Phoebe] also like at each resort so you'll be able to compare and contrast as we go along or if you're taking notes[Ed] Very cool. Yep. Well, let's start with temptations[Ed] Temptations is the oldest resort in this[Ed] group[Ed] It was the first one built obviously because it's the oldest and[Ed] I guess they call it the original resort like that's the name for it too, so people refer to it that way[Phoebe] It was it's[Phoebe] original name, which is kind of funny that it[Phoebe] Was called the original resort right[Ed] It's much much older now. How much older do we know?[Ed] How many years it is that I don't know okay, so it's it's been around for a long time. I remember hearing about temptations[Ed] a long time ago and I[Ed] Don't know that it started off as a swing or resort either no it was life's[Ed] Lifestyle friendly and definitely clothing optional well this one now is[Phoebe] Topless only so I'm not sure if it was ever clothing optional, but maybe that's what it was[Phoebe] This one is topless only and[Ed] You can get a membership and I think you can get a membership to all of these[Ed] Do we know what the cost is?[Phoebe] Well, the rooms are no, I mean you can look it up online. It varies[Phoebe] Right depending on the time of year and if they're running a special and[Ed] Whether you get like the deluxe membership or[Phoebe] Yeah, the room the room size that you get or whether you want the garden view or[Unknown] Not right, so I didn't I didn't bother with that detail[Ed] And I'm sure that by the time this publishes who knows what the resort prices are gonna be they vary all the time[Phoebe] So exactly your mileage will vary[Phoebe] Exactly, but I have heard that because of the age they are intending to[Phoebe] renovate[Phoebe] Soon[Ed] So they'll be doing some upgrades. Yeah, and and that's because in general the rooms are small[Ed] old and[Ed] Maybe not in the best shape[Guest] Yeah, they're just I would say dated[Unknown] Yeah, like Reno. Yeah. Oh, I don't know about that[Phoebe] Hey, I don't know about that[Phoebe] They're very clean and pleasant. They're just you know a little dated. Sure[Phoebe] So the demographic is 20 to 30 year olds[Phoebe] So if you want to go a younger set[Phoebe] Hmm a younger set yes, if you want to go hang with the 20 to 30 year olds[Phoebe] And party all night and into the early hours[Phoebe] This is your spot to go the cultures are very blended. So you have a nice mix of people[Phoebe] and you know like I said[Phoebe] Young[Phoebe] Very hip very[Ed] Happening nice fresh energy nice fresh livers. So probably lots of drinking right[Phoebe] They can withstand all that yeah[Phoebe] Their entertainment each night they have a theme you will want to check the with the resort before you go[Phoebe] They have it posted on the website, but it is an example of what the themes are[Phoebe] But they change all the time. So if you're interested in bringing a costume for that event[Phoebe] Or for that that time frame that you're there[Phoebe] Call I would recommend call them find out what the theme nights are that way you can plan ahead of time[Ed] A lot of techno and EDM music so[Ed] Oh, yeah, get your boots and pants on exactly[Phoebe] Pool games are directed by the staff[Phoebe] all day long really fun sexy[Phoebe] to the lady type of pool games[Phoebe] And they also have live entertainment and dancing in the evening[Unknown] Very cool. Mm-hmm food. I like food[Ed] So the food is the same at temptations[Ed] Riviera Maya and Pearl[Ed] There's cafes there's restaurants. There's an Asian fusion[Ed] Restaurant restaurant. There's a Mediterranean restaurant[Ed] Yeah, so a variety of food and it's all inclusive. So[Ed] Yes, you can go to any of the restaurants that you want and I think they serve[Ed] all the time[Phoebe] The food is available or if so more so in the cafe the restaurants usually have[Phoebe] Reservations specific hours. Yeah, yes exactly[Ed] And address code to the restaurants. Mm-hmm. And if you're interested in[Phoebe] Going to a specific restaurant while you're there. I recommend getting a reservation when you get there[Phoebe] when you check in[Phoebe] Book it and then you have it because they fill up fast right and[Phoebe] Again, same with all the other resorts[Phoebe] Now the pool has a swim up bar, which is super fun[Unknown] I love that feature. It's very cool and[Phoebe] They have daybeds that you can reserve[Phoebe] Around the pool daybeds around the pool lounges around the pool[Phoebe] But you have to put your your name in to RSVP those[Unknown] members are[Phoebe] first served and non-members[Phoebe] First come first serve right[Phoebe] So you get a little perk there if you're a member of the resort[Phoebe] Now the pool closes at 11 p.m. And this depends a little bit on the time of year[Phoebe] I'm not sure exactly why but[Phoebe] This pool at temptations stays open the latest all the other resorts[Phoebe] Close earlier. Mm-hmm again. I'm not sure why[Phoebe] Maybe it's[Phoebe] due to staff[Phoebe] I'm not sure maybe there's just they found that a lot of people aren't in the pool late at night[Phoebe] Because they've been in all day long[Unknown] And they're playing right[Unknown] right[Ed] Or they're in the hot tub or they're in the hot tub and the hot tub is there at the pool level yes[Phoebe] They're right next to each other. Yeah, temptations. Yes[Phoebe] for swinging[Phoebe] Typically at temptations, there's not a lot of swinging[Phoebe] You will get a lot of exhibitionists[Phoebe] And if you do get some swinging it's more of an unplanned drunken swapping[Phoebe] Thing rather than a conscious[Phoebe] Decision to set out and swing it's one of those[Ed] We happened to be in the hot tub. We had a few drinks[Ed] One thing led to another it felt good at the time[Ed] Oh, it was crazy. It was down in cancun[Guest] What stays in cancun happens in cancun stays in cancun[Guest] Exactly so[Guest] Accidental swinging yep, I just slipped and fell on his dick[Phoebe] Hi[Phoebe] All right, so that's temptations for you now. We're going to go up a little bit in price scale[Phoebe] to desire revierab Maya[Phoebe] and[Phoebe] This resort is the second oldest[Phoebe] It has 114 rooms[Phoebe] It is clothing optional[Phoebe] We and it's a little more affordable than pearl. So desire owns two resorts[Phoebe] Or there's two resorts with the name desire, but one is revierab Maya and the second one is pearl[Phoebe] Maya came first[Phoebe] We're going to shorten that to[Unknown] rm[Phoebe] So rm came first then pearl[Phoebe] rm is a little bit smaller than pearl[Phoebe] And they have two choices for room prices. You can either have garden or ocean side[Phoebe] I've heard both are fabulous[Phoebe] But the price point changes a little bit[Phoebe] This resort also has a membership option[Ed] All right, we need your help so that your community the very one you love and have so much fun with can also find our show[Ed] Here's a really easy way to do that if you're listening on apple podcasts or Spotify hit that follow button and leave us a rating[Ed] If you're watching on youtube, subscribe and turn on notifications[Ed] We can't emphasize enough how much this helps the swinger community and it truly is up to you to make that happen[Ed] It makes a massive difference in whether new listeners can even find us and here's the thing[Ed] When someone searches swinger podcast the algorithm doesn't care how good our content is or how long we've been around[Ed] It only cares about ratings and reviews[Unknown] We'd appreciate it and your community will really appreciate it[Unknown] Thanks for listening[Ed] demographic[Unknown] so[Ed] the age group for[Ed] Temptations was you know 20s 30s[Ed] For Riviera Maya rm[Ed] 30s to 50s, but we're kind of[Ed] leaning more on the 40 to 50[Ed] Side now that typically starts to make sense with the more expensive kind of destination swinging[Ed] events[Ed] lifestyle[Ed] Opportunities yeah because as income goes up or[Ed] Responsibilities and costs go down because your kids have moved out your older right you've got more disposable income[Unknown] So they start[Ed] Taking more of your money from you at these resorts right[Ed] So it starts to kind of[Ed] Weed down the population to an older group[Unknown] right[Ed] There's a[Ed] Higher Central American and Latin population[Ed] And not as many English speakers so a lot of people from[Ed] Mexico and South America and Central America come up to this resort as[Ed] their destination this is[Ed] It's in their neighborhood right they just kind of travel up exactly[Phoebe] So if you're not comfortable speaking you know[Phoebe] Another language where you are or whatever your thing is I mean[Phoebe] Just know[Phoebe] I like the challenge I would be on babble[Phoebe] Trying to learn Spanish right before I right before I went[Phoebe] But that makes you a little nervous, you know, maybe not your thing[Phoebe] If you don't really care, you know[Phoebe] I could care less if you're really gonna nod and kiss and a touch and[Ed] That's that's that's all I need you don't need to talk the international language exactly[Ed] We had we had a great time in Costa Rica with the couples that were locals[Ed] Yeah, we didn't speak didn't understand a word hardly any Spanish the Spanish that I remembered was from like fifth grade[Ed] so[Ed] useless[Ed] Yeah, and we had a great time with them. Yeah, we did[Ed] That was fantastic[Ed] vacation[Phoebe] Entertainment theme and music again very similar to temptations[Phoebe] Each night is a theme again check with the resort before you go[Phoebe] the night club is[Phoebe] I'm not quite sure about the nightclub for temptations[Unknown] but[Phoebe] RM does have a nightclub and this nightclub is going to be bigger than Pearl it is better than Pearl[Phoebe] People tend to dance a little bit longer and the music is same[Phoebe] So may I'm not sure why they tend to dance longer maybe because they're a little bit younger[Phoebe] And when they that's the way it was when you say the music is the same[Ed] Are we still talking techno EDM or is a little more?[Phoebe] Yeah, a little more well-rounded no same as a pool[Ed] boots and pants boots and pants[Phoebe] now the food[Phoebe] um[Phoebe] Not as pricey as Pearl, but the[Phoebe] you know you can[Phoebe] pay for some upcharges[Phoebe] And the cuisine is a little more cultural[Phoebe] And not quite as gourmet as Pearl so once again[Phoebe] Starting to step up but not right uh quite as you know[Unknown] Upper tier as pearl sensing a pattern[Phoebe] We're we're sending up climbing the ladder climbing the ladder[Ed] Pools got a swim up bar again[Ed] It's a smaller pool than[Ed] desire Pearl and[Ed] Members can once again reserve lounges and debits by the pool[Ed] non-members first come first serve members first served[Ed] And the pool closes at seven pm[Unknown] And that varies from time to time depending on the season[Ed] So we started eleven now we're down to seven so[Ed] Because we're older. Yeah, they expect most people to be asleep by nine. I'm assuming[Phoebe] We gotta get our sex on before the night is over[Ed] Hey, and you know what if the pool closes down and that means other activities start kicking up[Ed] I'm all in favor exactly. I like the pool as much as the next guy, but sun's down[Ed] Not trying to stay cool. I'm trying to get hot[Phoebe] Speaking of[Phoebe] the hot tub and which[Phoebe] Might explain where everyone goes after seven pm[Phoebe] Is at the top of a long flight of stairs[Phoebe] So if you have any knee problems or balance issues because you drank a little bit too much that night[Ed] Be careful never gonna happen. I'm sure[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] It's great[Phoebe] For watching the sunset and the rooftop view is phenomenal. However, it takes a bit of[Phoebe] Of a trek to get up there. You gotta bring your backpack. So drink[Ed] Moderately so that you can see the view otherwise you're not getting up there[Phoebe] You just get up there sober you drink[Phoebe] And then if I don't know hopefully somebody rolls you out of the hot tub. I don't know find someone to carry you down[Phoebe] That could be fun right[Phoebe] Hopefully he's sober[Ed] That's a million hits on youtube[Ed] swinging[Unknown] so[Ed] Lot of voyeurism a lot of exhibitionism with your own partner so it's kind of[Ed] Keeps your own watch. It's sexy. It's hot to watch. It's hot to put on a show[Guest] Right[Ed] and[Ed] Groups or clicks kind of form[Ed] and people often arrive with friends or groups and[Ed] It's kind of hard to mingle when you go to[Ed] This is true of any destination if group of people have come together. Yeah, you've got to like break[Unknown] In[Ed] It's not impossible now trust us[Ed] Swingers like making new friends. So don't feel awkward or[Ed] Embarrassed about going up and introducing yourself to a hot group of people right trust me[Ed] They if they like you are gonna be just fine with that right[Phoebe] So they they should be I mean I do know that a lot of people[Phoebe] Stay in touch over the years they've met[Phoebe] Once they stay in touch they coordinate the next[Phoebe] Time they're gonna be there and one lives in California and one lives in Ohio and they just want to spend all their[Phoebe] Time with their new friends that they met a year ago and that's the place they reconnect absolutely[Unknown] So[Phoebe] Maybe they may not[Phoebe] Be as open to adding more people. It's a possibility. It's beyond me. I can't imagine because more is better conversation or maybe a drink[Phoebe] That's all I'm saying, but some people just want to stick to who they know and I'm like[Phoebe] The more the merrier[Ed] Yes, we are definitely the more the merrier[Phoebe] So, you know, you know, just be where you could run into that[Ed] Plate area is yes[Unknown] Apparently[Phoebe] This play area is much larger than Pearl[Phoebe] It's a little it's less intimate in the sense that it's bigger[Unknown] Which is great more space. Mm-hmm more space you get[Phoebe] Little more warriors and it tends to be more frequented because there are actually more people at the resort[Ed] Which makes sense, you know price comes down a little bit more people can afford it more people come in[Phoebe] More more places to play exactly[Unknown] And who doesn't like to watch? I love to watch[Phoebe] Desire Pearl now we're at the upper echelon[Phoebe] This resort is the most expensive of all three[Phoebe] It is clothing optional[Phoebe] They do run daily specials on their website 24 hour sales[Phoebe] so[Phoebe] If you're interested in this sale, I would say put it on your daily calendar to look[Phoebe] Every day as part as part of your normal routine. Get up brush your teeth[Phoebe] Check your email[Phoebe] Go to desire pearl[Ed] Check for the special right don't eat your pancakes[Ed] Don't even have your coffee just boom. We'll get your coffee. Oh, I forgot the bathroom[Phoebe] You got a bathroom break in there. Yeah, okay bathroom break[Phoebe] teeth[Phoebe] Pearl[Ed] Then coffee in that order[Ed] Let's stay away from the cornflakes[Ed] Oh, yeah, they put something in there right[Unknown] And I think[Phoebe] The other resorts also run these daily specials as well[Ed] So a lot of places have daily specials right they'll be us[Ed] You know they they haven't booked all their rooms they try and push the sale airlines do this[Ed] Everybody does this hotels.com created an entire business because of this. Yes. Yes. Yes[Ed] So there you go. They try and pack the place[Phoebe] And just like a cruise ship as far as food and entertainment only on land with far less people[Phoebe] So far less people. Yeah[Phoebe] now[Phoebe] While this resort is clothing optional you must be naked in the hot tub[Ed] You wait you can actually wear clothes in hot tubs[Ed] I wasn't aware of this[Ed] Is this a thing[Phoebe] Yeah, it's called a bathing suit[Ed] I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, okay[Ed] I thought hot tubs were always naked. I know[Unknown] That's always been the thing. It's always been the thing. I know[Ed] Maybe beaches and all yeah[Phoebe] And most people don't leave the resort because[Phoebe] You know you paid a lot of money to get there you paid a lot of money to stay there and[Phoebe] You know you may choose to[Phoebe] Not get out and explore[Phoebe] So decide if you're an explorer or a resorter[Phoebe] If you want to see more of the country[Phoebe] Go for it if you don't[Phoebe] Then you know[Unknown] don't[Ed] And I suspect if it's anything like the cruise[Ed] if you do want to go on[Ed] excursions[Ed] that you go on a planned excursion[Ed] and[Ed] Work with your travel agent work with the resort to find those[Ed] Because kind of venturing out on your own[Ed] Results will vary right you may or may not give what you expect right[Phoebe] Now this resort has 88 rooms so much smaller[Phoebe] but they are more spacious and[Unknown] larger[Phoebe] They are all ocean view and that's part of the reason why[Phoebe] There's fewer rooms because of the way they[Phoebe] designed the[Unknown] property[Phoebe] Every room on the bottom floor has a jacuzzi[Phoebe] oh[Unknown] right[Phoebe] I know[Phoebe] I did get prices for[Unknown] Pearl[Phoebe] They're but but again[Phoebe] It is going to change[Ed] Yeah special[Ed] Here to your special[Ed] Your to your[Ed] covid[Ed] Right it's all going to be different[Phoebe] So I got prices for pearl[Phoebe] So that you can kind of see what the upper echelon[Phoebe] Price was and then figure out where you want to[Phoebe] You know focus your[Ed] So the cheap seat in the stadium yeah[Ed] 675[Unknown] A night yep[Phoebe] More than a cruise[Ed] more than a cruise[Ed] And there's no option like an inside cabin versus a[Ed] You know deck level cabin versus whatever right[Ed] Port what what's this up[Ed] balcony view[Unknown] 675[Ed] It's expensive[Phoebe] cheapest room not very many[Ed] Most rooms are in the 700 to 800 dollar range[Ed] We would classify that as very expensive[Ed] And then you can get a master suite for[Ed] 850 a night[Ed] Which isn't actually that much of a bump from the regular room[Ed] It might actually worth the extra 50 bucks[Ed] Right[Ed] Depending on what the amenities are[Unknown] Right[Unknown] Spa services[Phoebe] Are available at this resort[Phoebe] They do cost extra[Phoebe] And they are the same as[Phoebe] Prices you would find in the United States[Phoebe] So that's considered very expensive for Mexico[Unknown] Right[Ed] Because if you go into[Ed] I mean Costa Rica[Ed] Central America and Mexico[Ed] Things tend to cost less[Phoebe] Exactly[Ed] Standard living's lower cost is lower[Phoebe] However[Phoebe] You are guaranteed a happy ending[Phoebe] For both men and women[Ed] Oh[Ed] I did not know that[Ed] Uh-huh[Ed] Oh that's nice[Phoebe] So it's kind of worth the price[Ed] You you're paying for the service[Unknown] Right[Phoebe] Although I guess[Phoebe] You can get that here in the States[Phoebe] It's probably get it downtown where we live[Phoebe] But you know you run the risk of it being[Phoebe] Rated by the cops[Ed] So arrested[Unknown] Yeah[Ed] Solicitation charges[Ed] It's tempting[Ed] But[Phoebe] It's tempting[Phoebe] Spa service[Phoebe] Reservations[Phoebe] Do it early[Phoebe] When you arrive because they fill up fast[Ed] That's because of the cucumber water that they serve[Guest] Oh is that it?[Guest] Yeah[Ed] Or that of the happy endings[Ed] One of the two[Unknown] Uh-huh[Guest] Thought it was the hot towel[Unknown] Yeah[Ed] The hot[Unknown] towel[Ed] That'd be a fun experience[Ed] Just the whole happy ending thing[Guest] I know I think you would like it[Ed] I would[Ed] No, I'd hate it[Ed] It would be terrible[Unknown] Just torture[Phoebe] You have to start out[Phoebe] Laying on your back[Phoebe] Because just the thought of it happening[Phoebe] Is going to get you hard[Phoebe] The second you walk through the door[Unknown] I'd be[Phoebe] You're like I have a tent now[Ed] Hello[Ed] Where do I lay[Ed] Like let's just start[Ed] Where should I put this thing[Phoebe] Premier membership[Phoebe] You get a premier membership now[Phoebe] This is quite a bit more expensive than the other resorts[Phoebe] It's a lot like a time share[Phoebe] For[Phoebe] $40,000 a year[Phoebe] You get a butler for your room[Phoebe] Every time you go[Phoebe] You're guaranteed a chair by the pool[Phoebe] Reserved for you[Phoebe] You don't even have to ask[Phoebe] You get 14 days in the penthouse[Phoebe] And 300 guest nights in any other size room[Phoebe] For the $40,000[Ed] Got it[Ed] So for $40,000[Ed] You can have a bunch of guests come[Ed] On your dime[Ed] I mean[Phoebe] You[Phoebe] You can[Phoebe] Yes, I guess so[Phoebe] 30, 300, 300[Phoebe] 300 guest nights[Ed] I mean that's[Ed] And it's probably[Ed] Like if a couple came[Ed] That's two guest nights[Ed] So 150 nights[Ed] That's a lot[Phoebe] Party[Phoebe] Yeah[Unknown] It's like[Ed] We'll have to do some math on that[Ed] And then we're going to have to do an internet search[Ed] For people who are looking for friends[Phoebe] And if you have 40 cage[Phoebe] Just sit in your pocket right now[Ed] Yeah[Phoebe] I'm sure you could figure that out[Ed] Yeah, probably not a lot of[Ed] People on that list[Ed] I'm not on that list[Phoebe] We just bought a house[Ed] But if you're on that list[Ed] And you'd like to invite us[Ed] Send us an email[Ed] At Swinger University[Ed] At gmail.com[Guest] Because the more the mayor[Ed] Hey, we're quite the entertaining couple[Ed] Here's why we sail on Virgin[Ed] It's adults only[Ed] No kids screaming at breakfast[Ed] No family buffet lines[Ed] Just champagne at noon[Ed] Late night pool parties[Ed] And people who actually want to be there[Ed] The vibe[Ed] Think[Ed] boutique hotel that happens to float[Ed] Tattoo parlors[Ed] Drag brunch restaurants[Ed] You'd actually pay for on land[Ed] Plus when you're looking to connect with other couples[Ed] Who know how to have fun[Ed] Let's just say Virgin attracts a very specific type of adventurous[Ed] No wonder bread cruisers here[Ed] Just your people[Phoebe] So then[Phoebe] That wasn't[Ed] We need like platinum music[Ed] It's not like dramatic music[Ed] It's not like dun dun dun[Ed] It's more like[Ed] I don't know[Ed] Something[Phoebe] Right, okay, so[Phoebe] So talk about the[Phoebe] I sing on the cake[Phoebe] The creme de la creme[Ed] Exclusive rooms[Ed] The villa[Phoebe] Love[Ed] Private pool and hot tub[Ed] So you got your own resort within a resort[Phoebe] Only eight rooms[Ed] Six-figure income to stay there[Ed] So I guess they check your[Ed] Tax bracket[Phoebe] Well[Phoebe] Usually[Phoebe] People with a six-figure income[Phoebe] Well[Phoebe] Kind of[Phoebe] How do I say[Phoebe] If you have a six-figure income[Phoebe] This won't be an issue for you[Phoebe] If you don't[Ed] It's probably gonna be too expensive[Ed] Well, yeah, if you[Ed] If you have less than a six-figure income[Ed] Don't even bother[Ed] I'd get that[Phoebe] But you can aspire[Phoebe] Is there something wrong to go for the dream[Phoebe] Go for the dream[Ed] It's nice[Ed] But it keeps you somewhat isolated from the rest of the group[Ed] Right, like you're off in the VIP lounge[Ed] Everybody else is someplace else[Ed] They can't get in[Ed] Because[Phoebe] It's private[Ed] This is like[Phoebe] Yeah[Ed] But a boom, but a bang[Ed] Exclusive[Phoebe] It's like a resort within a resort[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] You have access to all the other amenities[Phoebe] But no one can come into your[Phoebe] Area where your rooms are[Phoebe] Your pool and your hot tub[Ed] Now you can invite guests back[Ed] I'm sure[Ed] But you can't mix and mingle[Ed] Right, that the[Ed] Target opportunity[Ed] Not gonna happen[Phoebe] Right, the only mixing and mingling you're gonna have is[Ed] If you leave the mountaintop[Ed] And go live with the villagers[Phoebe] Yes, yes[Phoebe] But it has some advantages[Phoebe] So because a lot of people come[Phoebe] With friends that they've met[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] So they're like[Phoebe] Hey, Joe and Susie and Frank and Charlize[Phoebe] You know, that's two, four, six, eight right there[Phoebe] To-do-do-do[Phoebe] We're all going[Ed] You mean Muffy, Miffy[Ed] and[Unknown] Yeah[Unknown] Yeah[Phoebe] And they they they set a date[Phoebe] And they all descend[Phoebe] At the same time[Phoebe] And that's I mean, that's their[Phoebe] Thing[Ed] Yeah, and it's great[Ed] Like if you can afford this[Ed] And you've got a[Ed] Interference[Phoebe] It's perfect for a small group[Ed] Then you get to set up your own little[Ed] Exclusive party[Phoebe] It's kind of cool[Phoebe] I kind of I kind of dig that idea[Phoebe] But it all depends on what you want[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] It's the royal oyster[Ed] And I would dig having that much income[Ed] To be able to just have my own[Ed] Resort within a resort[Ed] That's already explosive[Guest] But you're paying[Ed] But if you choose to mingle with the rest of the guests[Ed] You're going to have to leave the palace[Ed] So sure[Phoebe] Yeah[Ed] Really depends on how you swing[Ed] If you swing[Ed] What are you looking for[Ed] Are you looking for new[Ed] Are you looking for the strange[Ed] Something[Ed] Not the typical[Unknown] Like your friends[Ed] Your close group[Ed] That you hang with all the time[Ed] If you're looking for something different[Phoebe] Yeah[Unknown] Yep[Phoebe] Exactly[Ed] It's going to be a little harder[Unknown] Right[Phoebe] All right[Phoebe] Demographic[Phoebe] Mostly Canadian American[Phoebe] A lot of white people[Unknown] Not a lot of cultural differences[Phoebe] Not a lot of brown[Phoebe] Not a lot of black[Phoebe] Not a lot of tan[Phoebe] Unless they tan[Phoebe] Yeah[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] I suspect this is because of[Ed] Sadly[Ed] Income[Ed] Yeah[Ed] And it tends to be a[Phoebe] Unbalanced[Unknown] Yeah[Phoebe] Yeah[Phoebe] So your demographic[Phoebe] Will be[Phoebe] 40 to 50[Phoebe] Plus[Phoebe] In age[Phoebe] And[Phoebe] More of affluent[Phoebe] People[Phoebe] Because of the cost of the rooms[Unknown] Right[Phoebe] Entertainment[Phoebe] Music[Phoebe] The themes[Phoebe] All the same as the other clubs[Unknown] However[Phoebe] The nightclub is a little different[Phoebe] But before I talk about the nightclub[Phoebe] The lobby does have music[Phoebe] For about nine and nine thirty[Phoebe] And I believe RM does this as well[Phoebe] And maybe temptations[Phoebe] So[Unknown] There's[Ed] More mingly[Ed] Kind of[Ed] Atmospheric kind of music[Phoebe] This environment where they're[Phoebe] Encouraging you to mingle[Phoebe] So it's really nice in that regard[Phoebe] It gets people to[Phoebe] Get together to be active and engaged[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] Pearl's nightclub starts[Phoebe] After nine thirty when the lobby music has[Phoebe] died off or is done[Phoebe] And it's really tiny[Phoebe] It's a very very tiny dance floor[Phoebe] And honestly not a lot of people go[Phoebe] Because it gets two packed[Phoebe] Two packed people[Phoebe] Or two hot[Phoebe] It's uncomfortable[Phoebe] But what usually happens is they'll go for the show[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] There's a stage[Phoebe] And the[Phoebe] And a bar[Phoebe] And those are really big[Phoebe] But the dancers will start[Phoebe] I don't know about[Phoebe] Shortly thereafter nine thirty[Phoebe] Nine thirty to ten[Phoebe] And they put on a show for about[Phoebe] Twenty to thirty minutes[Phoebe] And it's incredible[Phoebe] It's sexy[Phoebe] It's hot[Phoebe] People love it[Phoebe] And then after it's done[Phoebe] Everyone basically leaves and goes to the hot tub[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] They don't really dance[Phoebe] They basically just go for the entertainment[Phoebe] Get a little warm up[Phoebe] Now[Phoebe] This could change[Phoebe] Based on when you're there right[Ed] Crowds different[Ed] Crowds different[Phoebe] And all of this[Phoebe] Will also change if the resort has a take-over[Phoebe] So if you've got[Phoebe] Another Swinger podcast[Phoebe] That has booked the entire resort[Phoebe] And they're doing a take-over[Unknown] Oh yeah[Unknown] This is[Phoebe] Throw all this information out the window[Phoebe] That's a target rich environment[Phoebe] For all swingers[Unknown] Sure[Phoebe] So your percentage of[Phoebe] Swinging is going to go up a lot[Ed] Oh yeah[Ed] Yeah[Phoebe] Because of the podcast and all swingers will[Phoebe] Go specifically to swing and to hang out[Ed] Yeah[Ed] And we've listened to those other podcasts[Ed] Life on the swing set does a take-over[Ed] They all do all kinds of activities[Ed] There's[Phoebe] Things swinging down[Phoebe] There might do one as well[Ed] It doesn't surprise me[Ed] They they'll do think[Ed] You know they'll do demonstrations[Ed] They'll do sibling demonstrations[Ed] They'll do sporting demonstrations[Ed] Interviews all kinds of fun stuff[Unknown] And[Ed] They kind of bring the party with them[Ed] So anytime you see an opportunity with a take-over[Ed] The group is going to be a little bit more[Ed] I don't know[Ed] Active together[Phoebe] Yeah there's this different kind of synergy[Phoebe] It's just like[Phoebe] I don't know kind of electric[Ed] Yeah[Ed] You get less random[Ed] If you- Yes[Ed] It's kind of like going out to a night club[Ed] When you know a band is playing[Ed] You know there's going to be more things going on[Phoebe] Or you know that everyone likes that band[Phoebe] Which is why they're there[Phoebe] So you're going to have more in common[Phoebe] Hence the take-over[Phoebe] Yeah[Phoebe] So if you want to[Phoebe] gear your trip to a take-over[Phoebe] You can definitely contact the resort[Phoebe] For when those times are[Phoebe] Set aside in the year[Ed] Yep[Ed] They've got all that stuff listed[Guest] Exactly[Ed] Food is[Ed] A little more gourmet[Ed] You can check the menu when you arrive[Ed] Make reservation that day[Ed] Because once again restaurants are small[Ed] Things book fast[Unknown] Yep[Ed] It's a very[Ed] Transient[Ed] Community because people are[Ed] Arriving and leaving all the time[Ed] So when you get there[Ed] Book your stuff[Unknown] Yep[Ed] Don't necessarily follow the website for the menu[Ed] It's a sample call ahead[Ed] If you want to know[Ed] About the week that you are going[Ed] Be a little bit more precise[Ed] And the pearl restaurant[Ed] Different cuisine each night[Ed] So they rotate[Ed] Friends, Chatein, Mediterranean[Ed] They also have a[Ed] Is the name of the restaurant Suuqi?[Guest] Yep[Ed] Okay[Ed] And it's an Asian fusion[Ed] Chinese Vietnamese[Ed] blend[Ed] To have a buffet[Ed] Which is always super handy[Ed] When you're not sure exactly what you want to eat[Ed] You want to like[Ed] Little of this, little of that[Ed] And then they have the Aphrodite[Ed] Which is a casual grill environment[Ed] Which kind of sounds like[Ed] The cruise[Ed] Or by the pool where they had hamburgers[Ed] And hot dogs[Ed] And it was very quick[Ed] Picnicky[Unknown] Ding ding ding[Ed] So if you just need that snack[Ed] And you want to have a little[Ed] Burger to tie you over[Ed] Aphrodite[Guest] Yep[Ed] And then of course[Ed] There's always room service[Ed] Which is very handy when you've had a[Ed] Very late night doing[Ed] Who knows what[Ed] And you just need a little something in the morning[Phoebe] Pool music[Phoebe] EDM[Phoebe] The pool is bigger[Phoebe] Than desire[Phoebe] RM[Phoebe] Ferra[Phoebe] Maya[Phoebe] And it closes at 4 p.m[Phoebe] Which is even[Phoebe] Earlier[Ed] That's crazy[Phoebe] I know[Phoebe] I think it's because people[Phoebe] Get ready for dinner[Phoebe] They go to dinner[Phoebe] They go watch the entertainment[Phoebe] And then they all just[Phoebe] Head to the hot tub[Ed] It's just gotta be the way they've got things[Ed] Scheduled[Ed] Mm-hmm[Unknown] Yeah[Ed] Hey there podcast listeners[Ed] You've been tuning into our episodes[Ed] But if you ever wondered about the steamy details of our adventures[Ed] Or maybe hungry for some sultry erotic stories[Phoebe] Well guess what[Phoebe] We've got something special just for you[Phoebe] Our exclusive Patreon page[Phoebe] It's like a VIP pass to the[Phoebe] Sussier side of our world[Ed] So if you're ready for an exclusive[Ed] Behind the mic experience[Ed] Head over to our Patreon page now[Ed] Trust us[Ed] This is where the magic happens[Phoebe] See you there patrons[Phoebe] The hot tub in this place is massive[Phoebe] And probably[Phoebe] One of the reasons why the pool closes[Phoebe] Because the hot tub's so big[Phoebe] And everyone spends so much time in there in the evening[Phoebe] It's literally the size of a small house[Phoebe] It's[Phoebe] Hey huge[Phoebe] It's designed to be very cosy and intimate[Phoebe] So it has these little pockets[Phoebe] Where you can kind of[Phoebe] You know go off into this little nook[Phoebe] And chat it up with another couple[Phoebe] Can do the flirt[Unknown] Yep[Phoebe] You must be naked in the hot tub[Ed] Of course[Phoebe] Of course[Phoebe] There are daybeds all around[Phoebe] Fucking is not[Phoebe] Oh[Phoebe] Fucking is[Phoebe] Allowed in the hot tub[Phoebe] Sorry[Phoebe] Fucking is allowed in the hot tub[Phoebe] And on the daybeds[Phoebe] Around the hot tub[Unknown] Hmm[Phoebe] Yes[Ed] So there you go[Ed] You can have fun at the hot tub[Phoebe] Yes[Unknown] But[Phoebe] You know[Phoebe] Typically there's a lot of finger banging[Phoebe] And[Phoebe] Drinking people off[Phoebe] In the in the hot tub[Phoebe] And one of my dear friends calls it[Phoebe] Swing her soup so she doesn't like to get[Phoebe] She doesn't like to get in it[Phoebe] Cause it's a little[Phoebe] Bit much[Ed] Little biological[Phoebe] Little but yeah[Phoebe] A lot of people do it[Phoebe] A lot of people have a good time[Unknown] And[Phoebe] You pick your poison I mean it[Ed] With enough alcohol with[Ed] Cleanes everything right[Phoebe] Right now obvious[Phoebe] We're in the middle of COVID[Phoebe] So I'd rather[Phoebe] Probably take that over COVID[Phoebe] So yeah[Phoebe] I try not to think about the swing or soup[Phoebe] Part of it too much[Unknown] But[Phoebe] If I'm[Phoebe] Yeah[Phoebe] If I get a random sperm[Phoebe] On my[Phoebe] Arm that probably[Phoebe] Honestly[Phoebe] died[Phoebe] Five minutes before in the chlorine[Phoebe] I'm not gonna worry about it too much[Phoebe] Because I[Phoebe] More concerned about COVID[Unknown] Yes[Phoebe] All right Ed[Phoebe] Are there swingers here[Phoebe] Are they there?[Phoebe] Are they anywhere[Ed] Yes[Ed] Well we don't know if they're[Ed] Still out there[Ed] If you're still out there[Ed] I know[Ed] Let us know[Ed] We haven't left our house[Unknown] In for[Ed] Striving us nuts[Ed] There are established groups[Ed] People often arrive with friends[Ed] Groups we talked about the takeovers[Ed] It's kind of hard for new couples[Ed] That don't know anybody[Ed] This is very typical on any kind of like[Ed] Established community[Guest] Uh huh[Ed] Whether it's a[Ed] You know[Ed] Regular hotel takeover[Unknown] Or[Ed] A destination resort[Ed] Where people all[Ed] You know flew together to be there at the same time[Ed] You kind of got to break the ice[Ed] And work your way into the crowd[Ed] So if you're shy[Ed] If you're[Unknown] A um[Ed] An introvert[Ed] You'll have a hard time kind of breaking into a new group[Ed] But time to put your extrovert hat on[Ed] Go introduce yourself to a couple couples[Ed] And get in there[Ed] Didn't see a lot of people[Ed] Playing or swapping in public[Unknown] So[Ed] Kind of plays into that whole group dynamic[Ed] Where people are coupled up already[Ed] They go back to their room[Ed] They have their fun[Ed] They come back to the pool to[Ed] Watch be excited, titillated, etc[Unknown] Exactly[Ed] 50% of the people[Ed] Rough statistics[Ed] Are non-players[Unknown] They don't play[Ed] They're not swingers necessarily[Unknown] They're just[Ed] Lifestylers if you will[Ed] They like the sexy environment[Ed] And they just want to hang out[Ed] And be naked around the pool[Ed] They like to watch people being sexy[Ed] They it's like the vibe[Guest] Yeah[Ed] It's very liberating[Unknown] Yep[Ed] But[Ed] This is where it gets us[Ed] You're paying $700 to $800 a night[Ed] And you're not swapping[Ed] So you went to a swing or resort[Ed] With a big[Ed] Swinger tax on it[Ed] But you're not going to swing[Phoebe] A swing or tax[Phoebe] Yeah, that's a good way to say it[Phoebe] Yeah[Ed] Because you could have just gone to temptations[Ed] And seen topless[Unknown] Right[Ed] And gotten sexy[Phoebe] Right[Ed] But not paid that much[Ed] But I guess without the full swap[Ed] Or the sex[Ed] You don't get to see a little bit different[Phoebe] You don't get the live porn[Ed] Honestly[Unknown] I don't know[Ed] It's expensive[Phoebe] It's got its pros and cons[Phoebe] Some people will argue[Phoebe] Why don't you just go to a nudist resort[Phoebe] Well, there are kids there[Phoebe] And you don't see live porn basically[Ed] Yeah, I know you do all kinds of stuff[Ed] So[Ed] I spray you with cold[Ed] Hoses and stuff[Ed] Just keep you calm[Phoebe] She does walk around with a whistle though[Unknown] Yeah[Phoebe] I don't know if she actually works there anymore[Ed] She may not[Phoebe] They called her the pool not see it[Phoebe] One of these naked[Phoebe] nudist, I'm sorry, nudist resorts[Phoebe] That we go to[Phoebe] And she hasn't been seen in a while[Phoebe] So I think they've retired her[Ed] Sent her out to pasture[Unknown] Yeah[Phoebe] She'd literally blow the whistle at you[Phoebe] If you were like[Phoebe] Hugging someone[Phoebe] You see a friend[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] Cressypool[Phoebe] Oh hi[Phoebe] You go over hug her[Phoebe] Tweet[Phoebe] There goes the whistle[Ed] Yeah[Ed] It was very[Phoebe] I know[Ed] Abrupt[Ed] And she[Ed] And she wasn't the most polite person either[Ed] Which was a whole other thing[Unknown] But anyway[Ed] We digress[Ed] Sorry[Ed] 25%[Ed] Soft swap[Unknown] So[Ed] 50% are non-players[Ed] 25% are soft swappers[Ed] We've got 25% left[Ed] What's left[Ed] 5% hard swappers[Ed] And these are not actual statistics[Ed] Right, I know because obviously this doesn't add up[Ed] Yeah[Phoebe] Because we're missing some percentages here[Ed] Hey, we don't do math[Unknown] But[Phoebe] But the hard swappers[Phoebe] It's pretty low at Pearl[Phoebe] So if you're looking to[Phoebe] You know[Phoebe] Fuck somebody[Phoebe] On your[Phoebe] Seven to $800 a night[Phoebe] Swinger event for a whole week[Phoebe] You might have better luck[Phoebe] In your hometown[Phoebe] Or one state over[Phoebe] Paying a lot less for a hotel room[Phoebe] And a night at the club[Unknown] Right[Unknown] So[Phoebe] I don't know[Phoebe] Again, it depends[Phoebe] On what you want[Phoebe] And how you want to spend your money[Phoebe] And all of that[Ed] Absolutely[Ed] And there's advantage to this[Ed] Maybe you don't like boats[Ed] Right[Ed] You just want to hang out by the pool[Ed] In the hot tub[Ed] And like that's your idea of vacation[Ed] Drink a lot[Ed] Watch sexy things[Ed] And you just want to relax[Ed] Yeah, it's relaxing[Phoebe] Sure[Ed] I totally get that[Phoebe] And you go home with great stories[Phoebe] And it restimulates your relationship[Phoebe] And that's just great[Ed] Absolutely[Phoebe] I love it[Ed] There are two play areas[Ed] The hot tub which is very large[Ed] And they do have a playroom[Ed] There's one playroom here[Ed] It's extremely tiny[Ed] Tiny[Ed] It's smaller than a hotel room[Ed] And it's just off[Ed] The dance floor in the club[Ed] There's no beds[Ed] There's two couches[Ed] And[Phoebe] I've never seen anyone play in there[Unknown] No[Ed] The entire week[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] There you go[Phoebe] Special treats[Phoebe] You can arrange for a dinner[Unknown] In the middle of the pool[Phoebe] They set this platform up[Phoebe] With a dining room table[Phoebe] All that[Phoebe] So you're literally[Phoebe] Floating in the pool[Phoebe] You get the sensation[Phoebe] That you're floating in the pool[Phoebe] You're not[Phoebe] I mean you are[Phoebe] But you're not[Ed] You're probably standing at the bottom[Phoebe] No[Phoebe] You're on top of the water[Unknown] But it's[Phoebe] So cool[Phoebe] Yeah[Phoebe] So that's pretty neat[Ed] Now is this in the castle[Ed] Or is this down with the villagers[Unknown] It's down[Phoebe] It's down with the villagers[Unknown] Okay[Phoebe] Yeah it's down with the villagers[Phoebe] Of course[Phoebe] Got some money[Phoebe] Uh[Phoebe] That's an extra[Phoebe] Ching[Phoebe] You can have a balcony dinner[Phoebe] In your rooms[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] You know they[Phoebe] It's like room service but[Phoebe] Better[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] Right[Phoebe] Much better[Phoebe] They have wine tastings[Phoebe] And[Phoebe] Those can[Phoebe] All of these things[Phoebe] Can cost up to[Phoebe] About[Phoebe] $700 per person[Phoebe] Oh my god[Phoebe] So depending on which one you pick[Phoebe] You might be[Phoebe] Spending[Phoebe] $1400[Phoebe] For you and your spouse[Phoebe] Okay so[Ed] At the end of seven days[Ed] We're up to[Ed] $5,000[Phoebe] Plesher airline[Ed] Plesher[Ed] Flight[Phoebe] Plesher parking[Ed] Yep[Phoebe] Plesher[Phoebe] Or Uber[Phoebe] Yeah[Ed] Yeah and then you know[Ed] Throwing a few extras here and there[Ed] There's another[Ed] You know[Ed] Three grand[Unknown] Three grand[Ed] Well because you do[Ed] Do that twice in a week[Ed] At $700 a pop[Ed] That's $1400[Ed] And $1400[Ed] That's[Ed] Almost three grand[Phoebe] Okay[Phoebe] Well yeah[Phoebe] Well[Phoebe] You probably wouldn't do it twice[Ed] I'm not going to do it twice[Ed] At that[Ed] Hey there you go[Phoebe] Not you might do it once[Phoebe] For a special occasion[Phoebe] Just[Ed] Just for the[Unknown] thrill of it[Phoebe] It you know[Unknown] Save up[Phoebe] That's that's what I got to say[Phoebe] If you want to do it[Phoebe] Save up[Phoebe] Don't[Ed] I got two cruises right here on my calculator[Phoebe] Okay wait[Phoebe] So do some math for us Ed[Unknown] So[Phoebe] So[Phoebe] Let's just go[Phoebe] What $800[Phoebe] A night[Phoebe] $800 a night[Phoebe] For[Phoebe] Per person[Ed] Uh-huh[Phoebe] Time to say[Ed] Oh is that per person[Phoebe] Oh heck yeah[Unknown] All right[Unknown] Yeah[Ed] Times to[Unknown] I think so[Unknown] I don't think it's per couple[Phoebe] I could be wrong[Ed] We'll go with that[Phoebe] We'll go with that[Phoebe] What's the number[Ed] And how many nights[Phoebe] Seven[Unknown] Huh[Unknown] Week[Unknown] So[Ed] It's only $11,000[Phoebe] Okay maybe it's not per person[Ed] Yeah I don't think it's per person[Phoebe] It must be per couple[Phoebe] I'm so sorry[Ed] $5600 though[Ed] Oh that's so much easier[Ed] We could just do that[Ed] Now[Ed] I've got[Phoebe] Then you[Ed] I've got cash[Ed] Right now they can do[Phoebe] But then you got to add about[Phoebe] $1,500 for airline[Phoebe] And then add another[Phoebe] $300 for parking[Phoebe] Just say[Unknown] $300[Ed] Cash[Ed] Parking[Unknown] Okay[Unknown] Uh-huh[Phoebe] And then[Phoebe] What you want this[Phoebe] You want to add[Phoebe] One of those[Ed] That's $1,400[Phoebe] $1,400[Phoebe] Okay[Unknown] Hey[Phoebe] $8,800[Phoebe] It's $10,000[Unknown] You're all good[Phoebe] It's less than a new roof[Ed] It's less than a car[Ed] Just[Phoebe] It really depends[Phoebe] On what kind of experience that you want to have[Phoebe] Identifying if you are a singer[Phoebe] Or more of an exhibitionist[Phoebe] Or a lawyer[Phoebe] Will help determine your choice[Phoebe] As well as the place[Phoebe] All in all[Phoebe] We have heard each resort[Phoebe] Offers plenty of entertainment[Phoebe] Food[Phoebe] And a really, really good time[Ed] Absolutely[Ed] Fun place[Ed] Good times[Ed] It just depends on what you're looking for[Phoebe] Exactly[Ed] Before you turn off our podcast[Ed] To take care of all the vanilla things pulling you away[Ed] Please reach out and give us a review[Ed] I know[Ed] Mashing a star is so much easier[Ed] But a review[Ed] Is so much better for sharing your love[Ed] Of what we're doing with others[Ed] We would appreciate it[Ed] If you want to share a personal 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