Costa Rica Swinger Vacation (LLV) – Day 2

[00:03] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program offering you the naked
facts about swinging. Here are your hosts Ed and Phoebe. This is Ed. And this is Phoebe.

[00:26] [Ed] We’re recording day two at the LLV Costa Rica takeover. Yes, oh my goodness. If you haven’t

[00:36] [Phoebe] heard by our voices yet, they’re a little raspy. Mine especially. Lots of lots of talking and

[00:45] [Unknown] screaming and you know it’s a full day of talking and then talking over music and the dance

[00:53] [Phoebe] club and things like that. So I’m a little horse and we are energies a little lower today
because it was a very busy day. But we did get some rest. So we’re gonna we’re gonna start
off with what happened yesterday midday through midday today. Right. So we did the whole

[01:16] [Ed] kayaking thing came back to the room recorded and then we took it from there. Yeah. Down to the pool

[01:25] [Phoebe] and there was a lot of pool time yesterday. A lot of people that’s pretty much what they did.
There was no excursions. They have like we had mentioned before that two pools they have a
lower pool which they call the hot tub pool because it’s smaller but it’s not really that small.

[01:40] [Ed] Or much hotter than the regular pool. Yeah, maybe that’s it. There you go. And then the upper pool.

[01:47] [Phoebe] And so the lower pool was happening. I mean that’s where it was at. It’s a little more intimate
of setting. It’s more surrounded by the jungle kind of just envelops you and because of its nice
round shape and the swim up bar. It seems a lot of people really liked that area for gathering.
Right. There was no music and no shade but that’s where everyone wanted to be because
small it’s like a kitchen right. Everyone wants to pack into a small space and there was a bar so it was

[02:19] [Ed] like. Yeah. And the swim up bar was where most people were hanging out. Yeah. Yeah. So because of the

[02:28] [Phoebe] no shade and I mean not wanting to be in the water all day to protect the Hu Ha and make sure she
was in fighting shape. I couldn’t stay in the water for too long and I am white as a ghost
based on my German heritage so I could not be in the sun for very long. My fake tan looks

[02:50] [Ed] lovely but I’d be applying sunscreen every 20 minutes. Yeah. So we spent time in the upper pool

[03:00] [Phoebe] which was just as lovely. Littleest people but they had music which I loved and people would
rotate in and out and we found our triple couple up there so we hung with them and chatted with
them quite a bit and then as the new people rotated in the group got bigger. Yeah and it was a

[03:23] [Ed] pretty steady stream of new people that we got to meet. Yeah. And you know where you’re from

[03:31] [Phoebe] what you know what’s your thing. Yeah. Yeah. It was all very interesting very nice lovely people
and then at some point volleyball started which was super sexy to watch. They could volleyball.
They could volleyball. Boops bouncing up and down in the water. It’s so great. Fair amount of that.

[03:51] [Ed] There were some nipple o-ring play which was fun. I did participate in that. Yeah. And you discovered

[04:00] [Phoebe] that you shouldn’t keep them on for too long. I know. My poor nipples. They gosh. Yeah so they got
as if you’ve never used them. They got engorged and so they swelled and so that made getting the
o-ring off even harder. Yeah. Because they’ve been on too long. And so they’re starting to turn purple
and I said oh my god we need to pick these off. And so Ed was trying to be very very gentle
and then at one point he said baby I’m just going to have to pull off rip the band-aid off basically

[04:34] [Ed] and I’m like oh yeah. So even the saliva and the the sucking didn’t help too much.

[04:42] [Phoebe] Water though it’s amazing even like with a ring you know. Yeah finger swallow. It’s the oil
that really does help but we didn’t have any and we need to get them off soon. So anyway.
Yes. The nipples were saved. The nipples were saved. And what else did you get for your nipples?

[05:01] [Unknown] Oh a nice triangle hot hot orange neon orange LLV triangle bikini. Yeah.

[05:16] [Phoebe] The tiny little triangle front and a tiny little triangle in the back.
Very tiny triangles. Four little tiny triangles all kind of
semi-connected. Yeah. So it was super sexy and their logos were really great. So it was really fun.
They had a table selling them and of course I wanted to buy one. Oh my god they were only $30. I’m
like a two please. I almost bought three because it was like one and every they actually had four.
I really should have just bought all four but I got a hot neon orange and then a purple

[05:52] [Unknown] very bright brilliant purple which will look great against my red hair. That was the logic.

[05:57] [Phoebe] The purple red hair. Yeah. That’s where the decision went. Red purple red purple. I don’t know

[06:06] [Ed] went with purple. I’m happy that you’re getting skimpy little bikini. So I rocked that bathing suit

[06:14] [Phoebe] not like I needed one because I think I brought six bathing suits and not like you need
those either at a naked resort but you know it’s fun to just prance around and you know
it’s like a costume change. Yeah but it is interesting I will say as I commented to Ed as we were
walking to the pool the other day in my LLV bathing suit I said you know I’ve never been
comfortable walking around in a two-piece ever until really recently like never as a teenager.
Never in my younger adult years I never was ever that comfortable doing that. I saw people do it.

[06:57] [Unknown] I wanted to be comfortable doing that but not until I became a swinger and late in the swinger.

[07:06] [Phoebe] And late and yeah so it’s amazing how you just evolve and change and you know based on everyone’s

[07:12] [Unknown] background and upbringing and programming you you know you got what you got you work with what

[07:21] [Phoebe] you got and you grow and you change and you move and you evolve and you become different and yeah
for your and all that good stuff whatever the world is your oyster for however you want to

[07:32] [Ed] experience it. Absolutely and you realize when people are hitting on you you are actually

[07:37] [Unknown] hot and you start to embrace it. Yeah yeah so you say it was a good day and then we um we took a nap

[07:48] [Phoebe] after that long day of being in the sun took a nap before dinner. A little cooked. A little extra
crispy. Yeah. Ed used sunscreen about that and got cooked. And a number of people did. We were

[08:04] [Ed] noticing the ruddy hue of most of the people running around. I’m surprised people are down

[08:11] [Phoebe] out in the sun right now at the pool. I I don’t know how they do it but um you know when you get the
when you get the uh we’ll talk about that later what happens when you get too much sun
too much drinking and too much full time. Oh boy. Oh boy. So dinner dinner was great and fabulous.
Oh my gosh. Again food is so good. See food, chicken. Was was it roast beef? What was it?

[08:39] [Ed] Of course it was prime rib. Prime rib. Prime rib was not so good. I think it was overcooked.
It was tough. Yeah it was a little bit better than I thought. Yeah but the fish oh so fabulous

[08:53] [Phoebe] and even the chicken and all the different dishes and the sweet potato like everything here tastes
different. Like it was a mashed sweet potatoes but did that taste like our sweet potatoes right?
Right. We were talking about this yesterday. The quote tamale here tastes totally different from
a tamale that now I understand there’s lots of different kinds of tamales but still tasted
completely different um broccoli tastes different that I mean yeah it’s just and different squash
and different vegetables um fruits. It’s it’s just I have so much fun just tasting everything so
that’s what I do. I kill a little plate of every little thing. I sample every little thing and then I

[09:35] [Ed] you know you can do it very well. And there’s plenty of choices so because it’s like the lifestyle

[09:41] [Phoebe] there’s plenty of choices to sample from. So theme night was devil and angel and holy crap. Okay so the

[09:53] [Unknown] party started at nine. Yeah about that. Yeah and during oh so explain the the bars how they had

[10:03] [Ed] it there’s two of them. Yeah so there’s kind of a dance floor area and right next to the dance floor
they have a disco indoors which is also a karaoke bar and we we tolerated it to get a drink and then

[10:23] [Phoebe] we got out. Until someone started singing Johnny Cash’s ring of fire. Yeah and I love that song

[10:30] [Unknown] by Johnny Cash. Oh and somebody else was singing it. You know it’s hit and miss. I mean karaoke is kind

[10:37] [Ed] of a throwing a dart at a wall maybe it’s good maybe it’s not. You never know. Your mileage will
vary but right next door to that is a a more formal bar and you can go in and get drinks made.

[10:54] [Phoebe] But the the the disco well they called that the disco inside with the air conditioning
in karaoke but then outside near the lobby they converted a seating area into the larger dance floor

[11:07] [Ed] with lights. Right video screens. Yeah and laser lights. Live DJ. Oh he was good. The whole thing.
DJ noise. Yeah. And O.I.Z. He was really good. I like the music. It was what I

[11:29] [Phoebe] called dance music but a lot of people will call it EDM music but I like it because it’s the energy.
It keeps you going especially me being an interview introvert. I need that rhythm to just keep

[11:41] [Ed] me going so fun. Yeah and it’s the EDM with kind of traditional songs mixed in with the bass line

[11:52] [Unknown] the beach. Yeah and the older songs like some 80s stuff was mixed in there with a new beat and I was

[12:00] [Phoebe] like oh my god I love the song from the 80s but it’s like new and hip and different. You know
you’ve all been there and you get it. Good times. So it was fun. The dancing was fun. They rotated
out two separate buffets so they brought out one buffet of all kinds of finger food and snacks
early on in the evening after you know this is after dinner once the club thing started
and then everyone snatched all that up and then they went and brought another one out later in

[12:29] [Ed] the evening around 11.30 I guess. Yeah yeah maybe midnight. So it was nice. There’s constant food

[12:39] [Phoebe] available for people. Water alcohol. Oh yeah. There’s no shortage. I was wondering if they’re going
to run out of alcohol but they don’t know because the bottles you can tell them they drop quite a
bit the levels. You go in. Outfits? A devil angel. Crazy. People really did a great job and they put
some effort into it. I mean they’re sexy. Basically just fucking sexy lingerie and body suits

[13:14] [Ed] yeah. Walking around. Wings, feathers, lots of butts hanging out, breasts overflowing,
just thigh high, stocking, sexy shoes, strappy, pointy, yummy stuff wandering around.

[13:31] [Phoebe] The high hip but cheek exposed thing was just phenomenal. Yeah. I thought that was so fabulous.
There’s a lot of butts everywhere. Yes. It’s one woman’s dress. Oh my god. Amazing. It was red.

[13:49] [Ed] You have to explain this dress. I have a hard time forming words when I’m thinking of that dress.
I get tongue tied and they’re swelling and bald. This woman is gorgeous.
She’s she’s my type. She is totally my type. Yet black hair straight in this gorgeous bob

[14:18] [Unknown] that almost touches the top of her shoulders. Beautiful, beautiful hair, beautiful accent

[14:27] [Ed] and she’s perfectly brown breasts and butt and legs and so this dress that she’s wearing is
a halter top but it’s a really wide halter. So it’s like side boob and cleavage right in the middle.
Like it’s like a foot of cleavage just right there in your face and then down the back there’s
these elastic kind of ladder rungs that run all the way down to the bottom. Yeah but an inch wide
and maybe four inches. And like a two-inch gap in between each one. So it’s just
all spine lower back but crack and of course no panties. Of course not. And what’s even better
is if she stands with light behind her it’s actually see-through too. So you can see
the shadow between her thighs and yeah. Like I said speechless. Yeah hot. I think for some reason

[15:39] [Phoebe] that was the sexiest dress and I’m not sure why even though there were so many sexy outfits.
Yeah. Yeah. People were very very creative. I actually was overdressed in my-

[15:54] [Ed] in your bra and panties with a completely see-through-

[15:59] [Phoebe] sheer kind of cover-up. Cover-up. Yeah. With like butterflies all over it. Yeah.
I was overdressed. Yeah. I would have been better just walking around in the bra and-

[16:13] [Ed] In the bra and the panties. Because your shoes. Right. Because you had amazing shoes. Everybody
loved your shoes. They were laced up all the way up over the calf. So they were like the
wrap-around criss-cross straps ran all the way up. And everything was they look- it basically
looks like diamonds, right? Right. The heels, the soles of the shoe, the top of the shoe,

[16:38] [Phoebe] the straps that went up the leg. All diamonds. Genericles. And the shoes had butterflies on them.
The cover-up has butterflies. The bra had blue butterflies. Right. So there’s a theme.

[16:51] [Ed] Headband had butterflies. And you’re wearing your Victoria Secret sparkly panties. They have
little bedazzled straps on the side. Yeah. So by the end of the night I was just in my high heels

[17:03] [Unknown] panties on a rock. Because I got hot. To be clear she was hot before the evening started.

[17:12] [Phoebe] And then everyone was like oh my god we didn’t even see her shoes. I’m like wait you didn’t even see
oh man I should have taken this off a long time ago. So tonight no cover-up. No yes no tonight’s

[17:24] [Ed] animal night. Oh that dress. Oh you’re going to be the equivalent of the red dress but an animal

[17:33] [Phoebe] print and see through lace. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves because that’s for tomorrow’s

[17:39] [Unknown] episode. But we’ll tease you a little bit. So it wasn’t all fun in games. At some point a woman

[17:51] [Ed] did kind of she either slipped and fell or she passed out or she stumbled and fell and then was

[18:01] [Phoebe] yeah. It was a bit scary. She was dehydrated and had passed out. Of course there’s nurses here.
So yay to the nurses. Nurses don’t ask you and nurses in the lifestyle. I love you.
So they were there taking care of her that I love it. I can always tell a nurse at a party because
they all have that same similar training. They say that ask the same questions. They support
people in the same way with the support the head. They you know all the things that they do
there’s a pattern of how they care for somebody. And I knew she was in really good hands but it
was scary. When you see someone’s eyes roll on the back of their head. Yeah it’s freaking disturbing
because they looked dead. She looked dead but she was not. She’s just very dehydrated. So they brought
her back to life and rehydrated her. Rehydrated her. So but one other thing I well we’ll wrap around
back to that. So when you go to these events we have a we have a good friend of ours that has a

[19:11] [Unknown] phrase and he says you got a train for this shit. Exactly. So when you spend you know thousands of

[19:20] [Phoebe] dollars to get here on a flight thousand dollars or more to stay here you it’s a swing or
resort right so whether you actually come to maybe you don’t come to have sex I don’t know we
come to have sex so we don’t come just for the drinking the party because we can drink party at
home because we we have that there. So we we train for this we we make sure we hydrate we make
sure we’re not in the pool too long because that dehydrates you the alcohol dehydrates you and
it’s really hard to keep up with your water consumption I tried my best to keep up with my water
consumption yesterday and I’m still dehydrated right so you have to just be mindful it’s difficult
you’re you’re you’re like a kid in a candy box you know I put the candy box and you’re like oh my
god I just want to do everything you want to be with everybody blah blah blah blah and you kind
of forget that you have to take care of yourself yeah in order to survive the week as it is there
there’s a couple people at breakfast wides on their own because their husband was not going to

[20:24] [Unknown] get out of bed all day yeah he did finally wander down but yeah he was a little uh we need your help

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[21:40] [Phoebe] I’m not gonna spend thousands of dollars delay in bed and my hotelers are all day long right

[21:44] [Ed] not gonna happen so that’s the big trick right you know pace yourself drink in moderation for
two really good reasons one you don’t want to pass out or be sick on somebody and you don’t want
your dick to stay limp all night so that’s that’s maybe that’s reason number one

[22:06] [Phoebe] yes and and and I don’t even know if anyone was in the playroom last night so many people
were on the dance floor I don’t think anyone got to the playroom we didn’t get to the playroom

[22:19] [Ed] we visited the playroom to see that it wasn’t set up the first night and then we haven’t been back

[22:27] [Phoebe] because we have even though I said we’re here to fuck we’ve have had a lot of time fun time
making the connections right but no one is actually I think people are still getting their
feet wet yeah so to speak still making those connections I have a feeling towards the end of the week

[22:47] [Ed] um people will start actually well we’re hoping to start getting other things wet soon

[22:54] [Phoebe] and transition we’re gonna start making uh more direct uh offers yes hey I have

[23:01] [Unknown] I’ve got to listen to the playroom yes I’m gonna have a list at our bedroom

[23:07] [Phoebe] let’s start dragging people yes we are gonna start dragging people yeah today is the day
most people are out on excursions so you know hopefully not in the sun hopefully not too

[23:18] [Ed] tired today and maybe the people who are off doing excursions will miss out on some daytime

[23:25] [Unknown] oh shenanigans um they also did have a uh photographer up there last night

[23:34] [Phoebe] I don’t know how we’re gonna get those photos but they were sexy we’ll figure that out yes

[23:40] [Unknown] so as an on-site photographer uh let’s see what else what else what else what else

[23:47] [Phoebe] oh later in the evening I tried to get a bunch of people to go to the lower hot tub pool
right um to use that as like a outdoor playroom playroom that we were all over that yeah so we went
down and uh it really wasn’t anyone there people kind of trickled in and it just they didn’t

[24:07] [Ed] really have it set up for that I was not enough light um not enough people no towels were out so yeah

[24:19] [Phoebe] it was kind of yeah I don’t know and what do you do it on like the lawn the sun chair I think you

[24:24] [Ed] have to do it on the uh lounge furniture which we have done before and it’s uncomfortable and you do
end up with road rash on the inside to your knees yeah um yeah I can attest to that yes that was fun

[24:40] [Phoebe] was a fun night though um yeah so if they had had beds down here then yes I think more people
would have but they’re trying to get something going um but instead we you know instead of playing

[24:53] [Ed] we met a really nice couple mm-hmm we’d been talking to them in in the pool earlier in the day
yep but it was nice to kind of continue the conversation um you had gone to get drinks at some
point on the dance floor and I was standing talking to the lady of the couple um Austin couple
and she I had asked her earlier in the day of what their playstyle was and so she asked
me what ours was and of course I were full swap but we really like soft swap we love the
foreplay and the touching and the kissing and all the stuff um and so that little conversation

[25:41] [Phoebe] and then we saw them again down at the lower pool and so I asked them you know how they how they
how they got into it it was interesting their um experience because they as a couple
we go out on date nights and they felt they kind of basically judged by by the community or
other people in the venue where they went to have their date night dancing and things like that
about how they um they felt judged about how they expressed their affection for one another
right you know they’re having a good time they’re dressed up sexy maybe they’re dancing sexy
or kissing each other but but they felt like they were being stared at for like it was weird like
that was weird right and they thought wow that’s so they they just felt constrained by their
community like they couldn’t really express who they were and how they felt for one another

[26:34] [Ed] openly right and and this is a married couple this is a couple who’ve been married for like 14

[26:40] [Phoebe] years how a couple kids yeah and so that kind of spurred on the whole well gosh you know

[26:47] [Ed] this is kind of maybe we need better friends kind of thing yeah isn’t there’s something else

[26:52] [Phoebe] better out there i mean i’m more friendly open community how so i’ve been started listening
to some podcasts he he figures out oh yeah there there are people like minded people open minded

[27:03] [Unknown] people happens to be a swing community and so they started checking he they listened to podcasts

[27:10] [Phoebe] and then they checked out some of the local swinger venues right in their area and they found that
yeah they can go they can have a good time they don’t have to swing they just really liked being
in that environment right which is great you know we we hear this all the time even on the bliskers
people come they come they hang out with all the open minded people but they don’t scream at all
um and so they did that for a little while and then then they kind of thought well you know

[27:36] [Unknown] i don’t know maybe might be kind of nice to buy a little soft you know here and there and you know

[27:42] [Phoebe] you when you get in those environments and you start to see how your sexuality gets to expand
and how exciting it is by having sex with your partner next to somebody else who’s having sex

[27:53] [Ed] with their partner and how who gets to do that like it’s just so the sensory overload and the

[28:01] [Unknown] energy and everything is just so fascinating you know and then you know at some point you may want

[28:08] [Phoebe] to extend that into more touching for soft more soft and then maybe full but you don’t even have
to do that but it was nice it was a nice story to figure out you know how they got into that i
feel badly that they can just be themselves in their own community that they like wow that’s just

[28:28] [Ed] fucked up so it’s it’s strange but we i don’t think we ever felt that but maybe we just didn’t give

[28:37] [Phoebe] a we don’t have that in our area because we have you know in the world near San Francisco so we have

[28:43] [Unknown] you know very large LGBTQ community in San Francisco and even in Sacramento and we have a bar called

[28:52] [Phoebe] faces and they have three bars in three dance clubs in this one bar it’s a massive thing right so
you have like more of the hip hop bar music in what one area then they have a country section which
changes themes during the middle of the night switches over to something else then they have more
than EDM dance music on the third one that’s where the sexy gay men stand on their little platforms
with the little girl about to answer guys give up money in there oh and their you know pants and
touch them and i know i love faces but you know that’s what it is it’s like there’s something for
everybody so you can you express and express yourself they have a unisex bathroom so we walk in first
time i walked in i was like oh i’m in the wrong bathroom nope nope it’s unisex i was man man stand
in there nothing urinal pan i was like okay that’s cool a couple men come out of the bathroom
from single stall together i’m like okay i know what’s going on in there wow this is really cool
my mind was balloon this is all before swinging right i was like wow this is so cool
so anyway once again very fortunate to live in a community that’s very open in that regard
eventually we say goodbye to our lovely couple and then we’re in bed at 3 a.m it was a very
full day full day so people are out doing excursions people were exercising today and we are going
to walk the property because it’s massive it is a huge piece of property and we are going to get
some serious steps in and hills lots of hills and lots of climbing and lots of steps yeah

[30:46] [Unknown] liberally steps so we’re going to check some stuff out and then

[30:51] [Ed] tonight’s theme the animal jungle theme yeah so we will we will talk to you tomorrow all right
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