Life of a Unicorn

[00:03] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program.
Group projects were never this much fun.
Here are your hosts.
Ed and Phoebe.
This is Ed.

[00:24] [Unknown] Don’t make fun of me.

[00:29] [Ed] She’s so funny.

[00:30] [Guest] I love your deep voice.
That’s one of the things that in your hands.

[00:33] [Ed] Hi, this is Ed.

[00:35] [Guest] And this is Phoebe.

[00:37] [Ed] Today we’re talking about what it’s like in the life of a unicorn.
We’ve invited one of our favorite people, single Susie, as a guest, single Susie Q.

[00:50] [Unknown] Yes.

[00:51] [Ed] As a guest speaker to help shed some light on how she navigates the single life as a unicorn.
Welcome, single Susie, Q.

[01:02] [Guest] Hello.
So, what being a unicorn?
Pros and cons.
What do you like?
What don’t you like?

[01:14] [Phoebe] I don’t know.

[01:16] [Unknown] It’s an evolving way of life.
Yeah.

[01:22] [Guest] Yeah.

[01:23] [Unknown] And what made you decide you wanted to be a unicorn?

[01:31] [Phoebe] Well, I’m single so I didn’t have a choice.
Well, how about this?
That’s true.

[01:40] [Ed] Clearly you were interested in the lifestyle at some point.
In sex.
And you were single, so how does that kind of fall out?

[01:50] [Phoebe] Well, I guess we can start with how I got into the lifestyle.
So, about three years ago, I just started to date after a very long pause.
Very, very long.
And it was a very difficult process for me.
And I did it about a year, vanilla, vanilla dating, and the websites, dread.
And I met a guy on a vanilla website that kind of told me about the lifestyle.
And it took a little while and then I just kind of had this click.
And I said, huh, I think I’m going to try it.
And so that was two years ago.

[02:47] [Unknown] And I just kind of didn’t know what I was doing.

[02:55] [Phoebe] Or what I wanted, what I liked, what I didn’t like.
So I just first hooked up with a couple of single dudes.
I’m like, yeah, well, whatever.
And then I did try to be with a couple.
Well, I did.
It was more for him.
It was, you know, she always got the third.
And now she was allowing him.
So I’m like, okay, I can do that.

[03:24] [Unknown] And it was fun.

[03:27] [Phoebe] And then I went to the Allure’s party.
I met you guys.
And I met a veteran in the lifestyle who we kind of, I don’t know what you call it, date, play partner or whatever.
A long term for over a year.
So I’ve actually done this single and then as a couple.
Right.
And so now I’m single again.
And I can say I did a lot of things as a couple, which I really enjoyed.

[04:20] [Unknown] So now that I’m single again, I’ve been a lot more brave, expanding.

[04:29] [Phoebe] Nice.
And enjoying it a lot.
Very cool.
Interesting.
Yes.

[04:35] [Ed] Interesting.
You’re kind of doing the whole experimental things, things you didn’t try before.

[04:42] [Unknown] And you’re like, you know what?
Why not?

[04:45] [Ed] It’s a great opportunity.

[04:46] [Phoebe] It is.
And I can say, you know, the longer you’ve been in lifestyle, the more comfortable you are.
Like when I first met you guys, I was like, close door.
I don’t want to do that.

[05:02] [Unknown] And now I’m like, watch me.

[05:05] [Phoebe] Here I am.
Let’s try to dig some of my mouths, you know.

[05:11] [Guest] Right.

[05:12] [Unknown] Yeah.

[05:13] [Guest] You’re like, why not?
Ever get a great part of it, right?
Oh my gosh.
So how is it in the lifestyle not being bisexual?
How does that work as a unicorn?

[05:32] [Phoebe] Yeah.
It makes very challenging, especially if you want to play with couples, but you don’t want
to play with the Mrs.
Right.
Right.
So, you know, it’s real challenging.

[05:49] [Guest] Yeah.

[05:50] [Unknown] Yeah.

[05:51] [Guest] Yeah.
But you found a niche with some of the couples.

[05:56] [Phoebe] Yeah.
I found a few when there is a small percentage, and I’ve heard this before, of the wives that
like to watch their husbands get fucked, or fuck me, I guess.

[06:15] [Unknown] Whatever.

[06:16] [Phoebe] Right.
Yeah.

[06:18] [Guest] And it’s fun.
Do they just watch or do they join in?

[06:21] [Phoebe] No.
They just watch.
They just watch.

[06:24] [Guest] Yes.
Wow.
Wait.

[06:27] [Unknown] So, isn’t that like the opposite of couples?

[06:30] [Guest] A cuck life.

[06:31] [Ed] Yeah.
That’s one of the ways it’s described.
Yeah.

[06:35] [Unknown] Oh.

[06:36] [Phoebe] I mean, I’ve talked with a lot of couples in the wives, and a lot of them say that it’s
very hot.
They may have never allowed them to do it, but they always say that is so hot.
Wow.

[06:51] [Unknown] Interesting.

[06:52] [Ed] And it can, I mean, the whole cuckold thing is a very specific kink.
True.
And some people are just, yeah, there’s rules.
It’s very much like BDSM and whatnot, and that there’s rules of engagement, so to speak.
But there are also couples who are just very compressive, if that’s a word.
They just enjoy watching their partner have fun.
So, you get live porn, and it’s your husband.
It’s kind of like your husband starring in your own private porn right there for you.

[07:33] [Guest] Yeah.

[07:34] [Ed] That’s pretty cool.

[07:35] [Phoebe] I mean, it’s challenging, because a lot of times, if I go to a party alone, and there’s
no single male I’m interested in, most of the time I don’t get to play.

[07:49] [Ed] Right.

[07:50] [Phoebe] Or my other thing is large groups.
Right.
So, I won’t do it.
I won’t be the third wheel, but the fifth, the seventh, the ninth.
I mean, I can do that because someone’s busy.

[08:06] [Ed] Exactly.

[08:07] [Guest] There’s always a spare stunt cock around.
Spare stunt cock.

[08:14] [Ed] I know.
Yeah, that is interesting without the dynamic.

[08:18] [Unknown] I mean, we run to the same thing as a couple where we find one of the partner’s attractive,

[08:28] [Ed] or more attractive than the other.
It does.
It presents some interesting challenges, but in a group dynamic, you can-

[08:38] [Guest] There’s something for everybody.

[08:40] [Ed] Yeah.
You get to play musical chairs and sit on whatever you want and-

[08:44] [Guest] It’s the whole bag of skittles.

[08:46] [Ed] Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

[08:48] [Unknown] I know.

[08:50] [Guest] Okay.
So, there is the perception that unicorns are bisexual, and we know that there are some that
are not.
We’ve interviewed two.
Yeah.
So, is there also a perception that you’re just going to, you know, fuck anyone because
you’re the unicorn in the room?

[09:17] [Unknown] Yeah.
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[10:18] [Unknown] It seems to be the thing, right?

[10:26] [Phoebe] Just an assumption that I’m just sitting by my phone, waiting for someone to contact
me.
Jump in and dry right there.
Right.
I don’t have a life.
Right.
That can call.

[10:40] [Unknown] Yeah.

[10:41] [Guest] Yeah.

[10:44] [Phoebe] Or standards.
Right.
Okay.
Just because you’re single and you’re a woman, that means you’re just going to be available

[10:52] [Guest] for anybody.
Right.
Yeah.
Interesting.
And so do you also find people will invite you to their party because they need you
to have a single woman there or they have other expectations?
Do you feel like it’s conditional or are people pretty cool about it?

[11:16] [Phoebe] I think it’s a hit and miss.
I don’t know if I get invited because the husband wants me to go.
Yeah.
Like, let’s invite her.
Like maybe, oh, we’ll convert her.
Let’s invite her.
We can get her.

[11:34] [Unknown] Do it.

[11:35] [Phoebe] Right.
Which may happen.
I can’t say never.
Right.

[11:39] [Unknown] You are experimenting.

[11:40] [Ed] I am.
You never know.
I never know.

[11:43] [Phoebe] Let’s see.

[11:44] [Unknown] Safety.
So we started to touch on it a little bit in the beginning.

[11:54] [Guest] You’re experimenting more now on your own since you’re not a cup with a couple.
You’re kind of long term single play partner.

[12:08] [Unknown] So how do you navigate that?
How do you…

[12:14] [Guest] What kind of things do you have in place to ensure your safety?

[12:18] [Phoebe] Well, I’d like to say I predominantly only meet people at parties.
Um, there’s a few occasions that I’ve probably talked to the person or text the person
for some time before I invite him over or maybe their professional status makes it a little
more trusting.

[12:47] [Guest] Right.
Right.

[12:49] [Phoebe] Just saying.
Yeah.
But other than that, the parties is easier for me.
I never got used to the online.
Yeah.
It’s just like vanilla dating on, on plenty of fish or something like this.
Right.
Right.
Which I have tried Tinder because the male, single male, you know, pool is very limited.

[13:19] [Unknown] So.

[13:20] [Ed] Well, there’s no shortage of them on Tinder.

[13:22] [Phoebe] I knew.
And there’s a lot of swingers on Tinder.

[13:26] [Ed] Yeah.

[13:27] [Guest] We’ve heard that we should check that out again.
We checked it out a couple years ago, three years ago.

[13:36] [Unknown] We tried Bumble.

[13:38] [Guest] Yes.

[13:39] [Ed] We tried Bumble temporarily.
That’s what it was.
And then I had a co-worker who was also on Bumble and I very quickly deleted my profile.

[13:50] [Guest] Yeah.
To know how that was, that was nerve-wracking.
Yeah.
Oh.

[13:59] [Unknown] Shit.

[14:00] [Guest] Delete, delete, delete, out.
But you also have a strategy for safety too for when you’re at parties.
Like, don’t you have like a wingman or a wing woman or something?

[14:13] [Phoebe] Yeah.
I try to go to parties with people either, you know, I do have a small pool.
A pool of partners that, if available, they come the party, not very often.
I have, I have a cystic horn, you know who you are, girl, cystic horn.
So we met pretty early on.
We both joined at the same time and we live close together.
So we kind of text each other and like, oh, we need help.
Right.
That’s good.
But we’ll go to parties together and watch each other’s back, you know, nice.
And then I think because I go so many parties and know so many people, I always get escorted
back to my car by someone and that’s not just because of the people, the party, but, you
know, we’re dressed like sluts and blotting in neighborhoods, you know, in the neighborhood.
But other than that, I think usually at a party, if I start getting harassed by single
males, I can go to people I know and just start talking or they’ll notice it before

[15:36] [Guest] me and be like, come here, you need to leave nice, nice, love it, I love how this community
looks out for everybody.

[15:49] [Phoebe] They’re so nice.

[15:51] [Guest] It’s the nicest group of people ever.
We hear it over and over again.
And I love telling the story about the bliss cruise, how there’s plenty of people on there
that don’t swing at all, but they keep coming back because they just love the people and
the atmosphere.

[16:11] [Unknown] They just have every time.

[16:12] [Guest] They’re just like the nicest people ever.
They’ll never be swingers.
They just love to hang out with us.

[16:19] [Unknown] Yeah.

[16:20] [Guest] It’s so cool.

[16:22] [Phoebe] I agree, which is why I like the parties too, because the lifestyle is my social outlet.
I mean, I don’t have a social life otherwise.
Right.
Maybe vanilla family or whatnot.
Yeah.
To be able to dress sexy and be in the same environment with people and be yourself and
there’s amazing people in the lifestyle.

[16:52] [Ed] Yeah, we’ve got a lot of really good swinger friends, so yeah, we can relate.

[17:02] [Guest] So nothing like crazy, like being stocked or followed or anything weird and you’re all

[17:08] [Phoebe] pretty lucky, well, I mean, I’ve let quite a few parties because, you know, the quantity
of single males is just overwhelming, overwhelming, and they are aggressive, they can be, right?
I unfortunately am a very friendly person, so I’ve been told that that doesn’t help things
because I all talk to anyone, but I guess that means I want to fuck them.
I don’t know.

[17:42] [Guest] But I’ve been told, see, I know, and that’s this happened to me when I was single and dating.

[17:51] [Ed] It’s a single thing.

[17:52] [Guest] It is.

[17:53] [Unknown] Right?
Yeah.

[17:55] [Guest] It wasn’t swinger related at all.
It was the fact that I was a woman, I was single and I was genuinely listening, I’m being
a good listener, I’m giving you my full attention and all of a sudden you think, we’ve need to
go home and fuck.
Right.

[18:14] [Ed] And I’m like, no, no, I’m just, yeah, just conversation, everybody should be doing.

[18:20] [Unknown] The problem is men, I’ll just, when a woman approaches a man, they start thinking with their

[18:30] [Ed] dick.
It’s that simple.
So they make eye contact, I mean, that’s the first thing they’re thinking.

[18:39] [Phoebe] Yeah.
I don’t know because I think in couples, the women are more aggressive in the men.

[18:45] [Ed] Well, and I think, yeah, and I’m specifically referring to a single man, when I was single,

[18:53] [Unknown] in that perspective, so to speak, not that I was an aggressive male, but, yeah, with couples,

[19:00] [Ed] I think it changes the dynamic for the interaction.
And, you know, two people have to agree.
There’s some conversation that has to happen, and so it’s not just a one-for-one assumption.
There’s less assumptions made.
There’s lots of hope.

[19:20] [Guest] But.
Right.
What percentage do you think couples are more aggressive, like the woman, as you say, would
you say, like, she’s more aggressive, 60% of the time, or do you think it’s really half
and half?

[19:36] [Phoebe] Honestly, I think it’s because the women drink more to loosen up.
I don’t drink, so I can see more stuff going on, but, yeah, the women are a lot more relaxed
and touch you, you know, and I could see that.

[19:58] [Ed] You’ve noticed before, too, that as the night progresses, women tend to be less seeking
consent before they start grabbing and fondling, and it’s almost like this very poorly unwritten
rule that, oh, it’s because she’s a woman, it’s okay.

[20:20] [Unknown] Right.

[20:21] [Phoebe] Right.
And that’s the assumption I’m a unicorn, I must be by.

[20:26] [Ed] Right.

[20:27] [Unknown] Right.

[20:28] [Ed] Ah, two wrongs.
Do not make a right.

[20:31] [Phoebe] But it’s okay.
I’ll go with it.
I don’t have a problem expressing that.

[20:37] [Guest] Yeah.

[20:38] [Phoebe] Right.
Half of the time it doesn’t matter.
They still continue.
Oh, God.
But it’s okay.

[20:44] [Ed] That’s just the martini’s talking there.

[20:47] [Guest] The martini’s talking.
Oh, my gosh.
So any long distance travel that you’ve done as a unicorn, like how far have you traveled,

[21:01] [Phoebe] like for a date?

[21:03] [Unknown] Yeah.

[21:05] [Guest] Cross the steaks.

[21:07] [Phoebe] Well, I’ve definitely been taking advantage of traveling, but I have gone to a few out
of town event.
Well, in one out of town event, and while I was there, I make a point to try and do the
hot date or meet up with other, and, you know, that’s fun.

[21:31] [Unknown] Yeah.

[21:32] [Phoebe] Right.
There’s a little hard.
Yeah.
Well, Vegas isn’t that hard.

[21:37] [Unknown] Really?

[21:38] [Phoebe] We did not have good luck having us worse luck in Vegas.
Oh, yeah.
There were so many swingers there.

[21:46] [Guest] Maybe what?
We’ve heard two other couples have a hard time, also three other couples.
Maybe you have to be single, specifically to get laid.

[21:58] [Unknown] Yeah.

[21:59] [Ed] I mean, we went to see a couple shows too, but we had a plan.

[22:04] [Phoebe] You probably heard the right side because there’s a lot of clubs and bars that are
swinger friendly, red rooster, green door.

[22:19] [Ed] We looked at those.

[22:21] [Guest] We didn’t end up going to those, because the reviews were sketchy.

[22:25] [Ed] At the time.

[22:26] [Guest] Yeah.

[22:27] [Ed] Of course, we haven’t seen it for ourselves, so hard to who to know.

[22:31] [Phoebe] I just posted like a hot date thing, you know, I’ll be in Vegas, and I got a lot of responses.

[22:39] [Ed] Now, we did went, yeah, we did the same, but we also went several years ago, so it’s
possible things have changed.
We stepped up a little bit.

[22:52] [Guest] We did go on one date when we were in Vegas, which didn’t like the date, but that’s a

[22:59] [Ed] whole other thing.

[23:01] [Guest] And we did.
Oh, that’s right.
We did have this long text exchange with this really hot couple and we actually met them
at the pool and we thought things were going great and we even had a dinner date get together
thing and then they ghosted us and then we saw them at the same show as we were walking
out.
They were going to do that.
Hey, isn’t that so and so, they were talking to me on us, talking with another couple
of like, hi, so we walked up and made it really comfortable for him.
Hi, how’s it going?

[23:42] [Ed] Yes.

[23:43] [Guest] That was a miss though, because it’s that.

[23:46] [Ed] Yeah, that sucked.

[23:47] [Guest] We felt terrible.

[23:48] [Ed] Yeah.
That would have been really nice.

[23:50] [Guest] And then we go back to the hotel.
We do, we tutel around town, we stay up late.
We go back to the hotel where you’re going to go to bed.
It was like, I don’t know, midnight, 10 or 11, it was late and we get this text, hey,
we’re in our room.
I’m like, I’m in, I’m in my pajamas, my makeup is off, like, because if they were in the

[24:13] [Ed] same hotel, we would have gone up or down a couple floors, no doubt, but still I was

[24:20] [Guest] right.

[24:21] [Ed] They were in a completely different hotel, like two blocks away on the strip, so there
was that way.

[24:27] [Phoebe] I think you’ve got to kind of plan ahead when you’re going to go out of town, like, put
something in my head at time, get some bites.

[24:36] [Ed] Yeah.
Yeah, we tried.
We tried.
We just didn’t have good luck.
We’ll have to try again.

[24:41] [Guest] We did try.
In another episode, we are going to talk about that.

[24:47] [Unknown] Yes.

[24:48] [Guest] The swinging in the Rockies.

[24:51] [Ed] Yes, traveling and swinging, we’ll get into that.

[24:56] [Guest] Hopefully, we’ll have more to add.
So parties is the easiest for meeting people online dating sucks, as we all know, in dating
as a single within the Swinger community.

[25:14] [Unknown] How’s that?

[25:17] [Phoebe] Non-existent.
I mean, if you think about it, why are most single males in the community, because they
don’t want…
Right?
Relationships.
Yeah.
That’s true.
Yeah, yeah.
Not that that’s necessary, but yeah.

[25:37] [Ed] Probably not an option.

[25:40] [Unknown] Yeah.
Yeah.

[25:42] [Ed] Right.
So we’ve talked about some parties.
We’ve talked about meeting people.
Let’s talk about meeting single males.
How does that work?

[25:52] [Unknown] Like, what are you looking for?

[26:00] [Ed] Here’s why we sail on Virgin.
It’s adults only.
No kids screaming at breakfast, no family buffet lines, just champagne at noon, late-night
pool parties, and people who actually want to be there.
The vibe… think… boutique hotel that happens to float.
Tattoo parlors, drag brunch, restaurants you’d actually pay for on land.
Plus, when you’re looking to connect with other couples who know how to have fun, let’s
just say Virgin attracts a very specific type of adventurous.

[26:38] [Unknown] No wonder bread cruisers here, just your people.

[26:46] [Phoebe] There’s a lot to that one.
I guess it depends on if it’s in person versus a text message or what not.
Obviously, to me, physical attraction is number one.
So it’s nothing like when you ask for a pick and they send the dick.

[27:09] [Ed] Oh, wow.

[27:10] [Phoebe] That’s a nice dick, but what does your face look like?
Right.
Right.
Number one, I also kind of stay clear of the real young inexperienced ones.
I guess that level of confidentialality is still…

[27:33] [Unknown] Oh, yeah.

[27:34] [Phoebe] I don’t know if they’re going to run until all their friends, you know?
Right.
Like, if they’ve been in the community a while, I kind of look for that.

[27:44] [Guest] They have a little more to lose if they have a solid professional career family life
things like that, so they hold that security and honor it.

[27:53] [Ed] If they’re established in the community too, then they have a reputation as a single male
that’s at risk.

[27:58] [Phoebe] Yeah.
Exactly.
So they look at their certs, right?
Right.
They certs.
We’re like, okay, well, that’s a person for real.
I do get a lot of people, they’re like, oh, I just joined and I want to go to a party
with you.

[28:13] [Guest] And I’m like, hmm.

[28:16] [Ed] Call me in six months when you’ve got a few parties in your building, you know?

[28:20] [Phoebe] I can get you in, but not with me.
And especially in person, it’s how they approach you.
You know, I remember I went to this one and this single dude stood out like a sore thumb.
You could just see the level of awkwardness he had and not confident, you know, hands
and pocket looking down and just like walking up to someone and the little nudge and I’m
like, oh no.

[28:56] [Guest] Oh.
Poor guy.

[28:58] [Phoebe] Poor puppy.
So obviously you want the confidence and be yourself and because confidence is sexy.
What was this one time I said, I was waiting in line in the bathroom in this single dude.
I thought he was a married dude just because the way he looked.

[29:20] [Unknown] Right.

[29:21] [Phoebe] And I’m not obviously friendly, hi, whatever.
Can I touch your butt?
That was the first thing he asked you for crying out loud.

[29:32] [Ed] I don’t think that’s a good pick up line.
No.

[29:36] [Guest] See you later.

[29:37] [Unknown] Oh my god.
I’m leaving now.

[29:40] [Ed] Wow.

[29:41] [Unknown] Wow.

[29:42] [Phoebe] Maybe if you were hot, yeah, but you know, the whole comb over in the barebed.

[29:51] [Ed] There’s so many other ways to smoothly transition to, can I touch your ass?
Like start with a compliment.
That’s a great ass.

[30:10] [Unknown] Right.

[30:11] [Guest] And then she goes, yeah, I know, and skills.

[30:18] [Ed] You’ve got to have some game folks.

[30:20] [Phoebe] You can definitely spot the insecure nervous, and I feel sorry for him.

[30:27] [Ed] It’s a little harder, but you know, I wonder how many single males have that problem.
And that’s the reason they’re still single males because they don’t have confidence.
They’re not in the dating world, they’re not, they’re not getting laid normally because
they’re struggling.
And so they figure, this is like shooting fish in a barrel, it’s easy, right?
But they don’t realize that this is not a hooker convention.
You can’t, you know, throw a hundred dollar bill down and I know.
No disparagement to hookers, by the way.

[31:11] [Guest] Yeah, thank you.
Not that I’m, you know, had that as a profession.

[31:16] [Unknown] No.

[31:17] [Guest] Although I did try out as a stripper, way back in the day, back in San Diego, I got paid
for it too.
Well, for trying out, yeah, I think they paid me like 20 bucks because you have to get
up there on stage and dance and try out.
It’s fun.
I wore a little leopard bikini or a top came off, but you can’t take your bottoms
off in California.
Back then, I don’t know what it is now.

[31:51] [Unknown] Depends on the bar.

[31:52] [Ed] Yeah.
Depends on the bar.
Yeah.

[31:55] [Guest] Anyway.
Well, there you go.
Little story about me.

[31:58] [Phoebe] Didn’t know.

[31:59] [Unknown] We’re probably a new.

[32:00] [Guest] What else about guys?
Anything else?
Oh, flakes.

[32:04] [Phoebe] Oh, yeah, we were talking about them earlier.
That is the worst and it happens to me all the time, it’s so frustrating.
I don’t know if they’re afraid or what, but, you know, have a little respect.

[32:27] [Unknown] Yeah.

[32:28] [Phoebe] You know, if you’re not going to make it, if you don’t want to see something, right?

[32:35] [Guest] So sounds like some of the similar crap that you deal with as, you know, single person
in the dating world.

[32:43] [Phoebe] And then text, like, weeks later, like, nothing happened, hey, what’s up?

[32:48] [Guest] Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
The random booty call.
Yeah.

[32:53] [Unknown] Yeah.

[32:54] [Guest] Been there.
Yeah.

[32:56] [Ed] Yeah.
I think that all kind of boils down to those life skills, dating skills, and engaging with

[33:03] [Unknown] other people, you know, just having courtesy and respect that, you know, you follow through

[33:11] [Ed] or you at least apologize for not being able to follow through.
Right.

[33:17] [Unknown] Right.

[33:18] [Phoebe] Yeah.

[33:19] [Unknown] And it’s real hard to find, like, I didn’t realize until it was gone, someone that you

[33:25] [Phoebe] have a good connection with, like, playing, like, even if I want a partner to do partner
things, you got to have that good chemistry together where you can portray it out with
the other a couple, and it’s really hard to find that.

[33:45] [Unknown] Yeah.

[33:47] [Phoebe] So it’s part of the finding the partner and it’s like, yeah, you’re a fun one-on-one, but
I wouldn’t share you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don’t want my friends to try that.

[34:04] [Guest] Bring your A game, right?

[34:07] [Unknown] All right.

[34:08] [Ed] We talked about single males and couples, have you, have you had any just standout experiences
or, I don’t know, brushes with fame, if you will?

[34:23] [Phoebe] Good question.
Like I said, Vegas has a lot of swingers, so I did put out a little hot date, I’m going
to be in Vegas, got quite a few bites.
Oh, I did get a retired football star respond, interesting, right, but it was not my type
because he’s probably retired for, like, 40 years, but I got a bite from a retired porn
star, recently retired porn star.
So, you know, safety, I did some chat and video chat and exchanged some information on

[35:14] [Ed] each other’s website, all that good stuff, and fun, and I was at an event and I left the

[35:22] [Phoebe] event to go fuck a porn star.

[35:25] [Ed] Oh.

[35:26] [Phoebe] It’s a little intimidating, I was a little nervous.

[35:30] [Ed] Yeah, it’s like a celebrity role.

[35:32] [Phoebe] Oh, sure.

[35:33] [Unknown] He’s fucked all these professionals, right, but I guess it was okay because he invited

[35:41] [Phoebe] me over the next day, so there you go.
And it was my birthday weekend, so I was excited that I checked that off my bucket list.

[35:53] [Ed] Yeah, you got to blow out that candle.

[35:57] [Phoebe] Yeah.
Wow.
And of course, I went back to the party and bragged to everyone.

[36:02] [Guest] Yes.
That’s fun, very cool.
That’s awesome.
That’s pretty awesome.
Okay.
So Ed, when we go back to Vegas, we always said, we’re never going by ourselves.
We have to bring the party with us.

[36:17] [Ed] Yes.

[36:18] [Guest] She’s coming with us.

[36:19] [Phoebe] I think there’s some events coming up, we’ll definitely have to, because I swear, you

[36:26] [Guest] have to bring the party to Vegas.
I tend to bring a party.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because who’s there?
Everybody’s there.
All the bachelors are there, all the bachelors are there, all the birthday party people, everybody
is there in a group, so I, we’ve got to bring a party with us.
It’s the backup plan just in case.
I’m game.

[36:53] [Unknown] All right.

[36:54] [Ed] Can’t leave it to the odds, especially in Vegas, right?

[36:58] [Guest] We clearly are odds suck, so you cashed in big time, so we’re taking you, you’re going
to be lucky charm.

[37:05] [Phoebe] I actually have a date next week when someone visiting from Vegas, so I’m going to get some

[37:14] [Guest] connections, right?
There we go.
There we go.
All right.

[37:18] [Ed] Yeah.
We’ll have to see.

[37:20] [Guest] I don’t know what happened to us.

[37:23] [Ed] Better luck next time, right?
That’s what you’ll always say when you go to Vegas.

[37:28] [Unknown] I don’t know.

[37:29] [Guest] All right.
We’d love to thank you, our single Susie Q, for joining us today, to speak with us, and
we loved having you as our guest.
Thank you.
Yeah.

[37:44] [Ed] Yeah.
Love to have you back after our Vegas adventure to discuss that.
That would be fun.

[37:50] [Guest] Okay.
I’m already starting to plan it.

[37:53] [Ed] Yeah.
That could be fun.

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