What is the Difference between Jealousy & Envy

[00:02] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program, providing you
lusty lifestyle lessons. Here are your hosts, Ed and Phoebe. Hi everyone, welcome

[00:24] [Ed] back. This is Ed and this is Phoebe at Swinger University. How do you deal with
jealousy? It is something we hear about all the time. What you’re feeling may
not be jealousy. It might be envy or both. Today we’re going to break down each of
these feelings and provide you with some real life examples from our own

[00:51] [Phoebe] experience. Romantic jealousy is associated with three interrelated
interpersonal experiences, uncertainty, suspicion, and distrust. This is why
when you embark on the journey of swinging, you need to be confident in the
solidity of your relationship and don’t go into this hobby or lifestyle

[01:16] [Unknown] looking to fix it. Today we’re going to break things down. We’re going to break

[01:22] [Phoebe] down jealousy. We’re going to break down envy. We’re going to define it. We’re
going to see how those two things play out in society and how they play out in a
biological way. Then we’ll cover a listener email. So Ed, do you want to define

[01:42] [Ed] jealousy for us? Yeah, let’s go ahead and read the definition here. So here is the

[01:47] [Unknown] Webster’s definition of jealousy, the feeling of loss of a relationship,

[01:53] [Ed] romantic, and friendship. It is a threat to a desired pre-existing relational
state. Tens to be more broad and includes a variety of motions like anger,

[02:06] [Phoebe] fear, and sadness. And for reference, I added two Webster there based on my
research. Okay, I made it a little more rounded out. Gotcha. So negative

[02:20] [Ed] features of jealousy are. Jealousy centers on feelings of fear that
result from a threat or a perceived threat and this feeling that you’re
losing what you’ve possessed, what you’ve had in a relationship. And individuals
may become overly possessive and demanding. Tens to come with this trust and

[02:47] [Phoebe] fear, uncertainty, and loneliness. It’s this feeling that things aren’t in

[02:55] [Ed] your control. They’re getting out of your control and you’re kind of changing
the status of your relationship in a way that scares you. But I think the key

[03:04] [Phoebe] thing here is that loss of the possession, right, the feeling that you
possess something that you are going to lose. Those two things. Right. The

[03:17] [Unknown] positive side of jealousy can be, and it’s been shown in society and we’ll

[03:25] [Phoebe] touch on that, that it can show love and affection. It can help you realize how
you feel about a person. And it can help you reevaluate your relationship and
deepen that commitment. Some people strive to protect and they maintain their
relationships better because of jealousy. And I think we’ve avoided jealousy because

[03:49] [Ed] we don’t feel like we own each other. Correct. We made a conscious decision to
to be together. Yes. We chose each other. In fact, that was in our in our
vows. I choose you. Yeah. So it’s it’s a conscious decision to stick
together to maintain our relationship. Yeah. And it’s not like I’m losing you
because if I’ve lost you, it wasn’t because of something that was going on

[04:19] [Unknown] in a bedroom with another couple. Right. We’ve got bigger problems. Right. Right.

[04:28] [Phoebe] So envy. Envy is something that a lot of people don’t really know about when
they feel what they call jealousy feelings. Sometimes it’s envy. And so envy is
a feeling of discontent or resentful longing aroused by someone else’s

[04:50] [Unknown] possessions, qualities or luck, or the desire to have those possessions, qualities

[04:58] [Phoebe] or luck that obviously belong to somebody else. Comparing one’s own
situation to that of someone else you are scrutinizing envy is less passionate
and more cognitive. Right. So more introspective. And there’s an example on the

[05:26] [Unknown] negative that we’ll go into of how how that manifested for us when we were

[05:35] [Phoebe] playing with others. Do you want to talk about negative? Yeah. Again. The

[05:42] [Ed] negative. So the focus is on longing. This feeling of inferiority and resentment
is the strongest when there is a negative comparison of yourself to someone
else. Example is comparing yourself to the other woman or man you’re playing

[06:03] [Unknown] with. Right. And so here’s the example. If or when we were playing with another

[06:13] [Phoebe] couple on the same bed, sometimes early on or you know sometimes it crops up

[06:20] [Unknown] time to time depending on you know where you’re at that day or that time of the

[06:29] [Phoebe] month or where you’re at in that part of your relationship. If maybe if you’re
not particularly feeling confident or connected or connected with your
partner or you’re not feeling a high self esteem for your own individuality
your own self, you may be prone to compare yourself to another woman. Oh she’s
pretty here. Oh my god. Her boobs are so big. Oh my god. She’s so you know pristine
or gorgeous or her skin so perfect. There’s something there’s some sort of
comparison going on. Right. Which you know starts to kind of erode away or you
look at your partner and go oh he looks like he’s having a better time than me.
And that’s envy right there. Because you want to have just as much fun. I mean
why wouldn’t you? Right. Right. And so that’s that perception that you know
you’re someone else is having something that you don’t have. And I think it’s

[07:44] [Ed] important to recognize that you’re having those feelings and then to figure
out why you’re having them. Right. And we’ve had those experiences before in
play situations with other couples happen with us on New Year’s with a couple
we were playing with. There was this sense of she’s having something that I’m
not. But I was conscious of it and I accepted it for what it was and kind of
what was going on at the time and realized that it’s it’s nothing that Phoebe
was doing. It’s it was situational and so I was okay to deal with it. And envy

[08:29] [Phoebe] can kind of snowball on you and people can strike out against those who make
the what they think others are making them feel inferior. Right. On the positive

[08:45] [Ed] side, I’m going to get all philosophical. I am. I’m going to quote Aristotle. He

[08:53] [Phoebe] believed it can actually motivate people to be better to improve themselves and

[08:58] [Unknown] sometimes be more competitive with the rival. So for example, you know, you you

[09:06] [Phoebe] have this situation, you come back home and you’re like, wow, you know, I don’t
know what happened. I you haven’t had time to process that emotion. Right. Because
you’ve got the hormones flying the excitement adrenaline. You’ve got a little
alcohol in you’re just this is whole chemical of stuff going on the next day or
two days later, you’re like, huh, I wonder what I wonder what that was. And you
start to be a little introspective and you start to ponder and you think, oh, yeah,
you know, maybe I didn’t, maybe I just didn’t feel my, I feel like I looked my

[09:45] [Unknown] best man, you know, maybe I should work out a little more or something. And

[09:52] [Phoebe] and then that competitive nature comes back and you’re like, man, his pecs were
bigger. You know what? I’m going to start doing some more push-ups or something.
Whatever it is, they’re like, you know what? Her nails were on fleek. Man, wow. You
know what? I’m going to next time I’m going to go treat myself. I’m going to get
this bitch in manicure. Bam. There’s a competitive, right? Right. You know, that’s

[10:17] [Ed] the example. Yeah. And sometimes it’s just that the couple was hotter or something
because you felt perceived. Right. And so that may inspire you to up your game. Up your

[10:30] [Unknown] game. Yeah. Change your hair color, hairstyle, something. Alrighty. So as a

[10:38] [Phoebe] researcher, I researched a lot on this topic and I did go back to some of my, my
college books and I found a, a nice article by Guerrero and Anderson. And I
loved what they said and how they summarized jealousy and envy. So I’m just

[10:58] [Unknown] going to read what they said. The experiences of jealousy and envy often produce

[11:04] [Phoebe] negative emotional reactions and self perceptions. In the case of jealousy,
individuals are likely to feel fear due to possible abandonment and relational
loss. Anxiety related to relational uncertainty, anger in response to valued
relationship. In the case of envy, individuals are likely to fear rejection,
experience anxiety or despair due to their perceived inferiority and feel sad
and hopeless if they do not see a way of improving their situation. In both cases,
lowered self-esteem is a likely outcome because a negative self to other

[11:55] [Unknown] comparison has been made. Jealous individuals generally believe that their

[12:01] [Phoebe] partners compared them unfavorably to arrival. Envious individuals make the
unfavorable self to other comparison themselves. Despite the considerable inner
turmoil that jealousy and envy often produce, these emotions are more than
purely interpersonal phenomena. Both emotions originate in social interaction
and or social comparison. Both usually have consequences for relationships and
both are expressed in inter-personal communication. Which is why we talk so
much about communication. Because this stuff comes up all the time and you have
to be able to talk this out with your partner. Hey, there’s something going on
with me. This is how I feel. It looked like this and looked like you were doing

[13:00] [Unknown] that and then your partner’s like, I can understand how it would look like

[13:05] [Phoebe] way. But here was my perspective and then you just you talk it out back and
forth to empathize and hear one another and be there as you go through this

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[14:23] [Unknown] listening. And remember that most of this you heard repeated multiple times

[14:32] [Ed] through that quote perceived. So there’s a perception, which is all in the eye
of the holder. So you are seeing something probably differently than other
people are seeing it. And so it’s a matter of expressing your position and

[14:50] [Unknown] and perception of the situation and having your partner be able to explain, no
that’s that’s not at all how I was feeling. And it’s really wonderful when you

[15:03] [Phoebe] have that you can have that introspection and that trust in your partner to
to express your deep feelings, take ownership of what’s going on and say, hey, I’m
feeling this way. This is what it looked like to me. Can you help me figure this
out? Because I’m feeling really hurt right now. Right. And the really great thing

[15:26] [Ed] is if you can kind of dig through those emotions, you can understand what
that underlying issue is because it’s the emotions that are the feeling that’s
kind of on top of it, but there’s a cause. There’s something that’s making you
think that way. And if you can kind of drill down to that, then you can kind

[15:48] [Phoebe] of resolve that issue. Right. And then your partner can be there for you
because maybe you say, let’s take the example of I felt that Ed was having a
better time than me. Well, Ed could say, you know what? What is it that you need?
And I could say something like, you know what? I would love it if like every five
minutes, you know, you just reach out and grab my hand or you’d look at me.
I need more eye contact. I need more touching from you. Could you just reach out
and reassure me? You know, maybe it’s that. And poof, you know, maybe that’s the

[16:36] [Ed] resolution. Yeah. And some of this is that you have this perception that someone’s
having a better time than you. And when they give you their perspective on it,
they’re like, well, no, actually, it was fun, but it wasn’t fantastic.

[16:52] [Unknown] Right. It looked better than it felt. Right. Right. But you don’t know how that other

[16:58] [Ed] person’s feeling. So it’s important to be able to talk through those feelings. Right.

[17:03] [Phoebe] So no, you’re not crazy. And yes, what your feeling is completely normal. And you know,
once again, being able to be open and honest with yourself first. And then
with your partner’s critical in this lifestyle. All right. Let’s talk about

[17:20] [Ed] jealousy as feud in society. Everybody knows these. Right. Yeah. It’s it’s everywhere. So, you know,
it’s books, movies, the the girlfriend gets upset because you watch the other girls, but go by,
like, these are the classic stories of jealousy. And it’s hammered into us over and over and over.
Like you should be jealous. You can’t look at another person or, you know, at some point in

[17:57] [Phoebe] society, it changed. And then you were shamed for feeling that way. You shouldn’t be jealous.
How like beneath you? Right. So it’s interesting. We’ll we’ll go through the history on how that
changed. So there was a researcher by the name of Clinton who performed an analysis of all the
magazine articles on jealousy and found some really interesting trends. So around it actually was
between 1945 and 1965. Jealousy was seen as proof of love or natural and good for the marriage.

[18:38] [Ed] Right. You’re expressing your your strong desire to possess that person. Yeah. And by expressing that,
jealousy that anger that someone else was getting in the way of that, you were kind of reinforcing

[18:55] [Unknown] that passionate feeling that you have. Right. However, women were not supposed to show their
jealousy, but for men, it was perfectly normal. And of course, once again, it was different for

[19:11] [Phoebe] women. They weren’t supposed to interpret their husband’s jealousy. Oh, they were supposed to
interpret it as love and affection. So he’s being a jerk. Yeah.
But it just means that he loves you. Oh, that’s spine, honey. He just loves you.

[19:31] [Ed] So then in between 1970 and 1980, so a new generation of articles, jealousy was seen as a
personality defect. This is the ugly green monster that everybody talks about. Oh, yeah.
Being jealous was something to be guilty about. You were thought of as distrustful, suspicious,
or insecure, and certainly not able to manage your emotions, right? They were getting away from you.
Yeah. Yeah. Healthier, but also unhealthy perception all the same time.

[20:10] [Phoebe] And then in the 90s, people are both repulsed and fascinated by jealousy.
It’s a more frequent topic than ever with an explosion of television talk shows and
docu dramas with jealousy being seen as a defect. Right. Who was it? Remember all the talk shows that
came out? What was his name? Mori. Mori Poe is good. And then he turned, but it was who was

[20:39] [Ed] before him? The paternity tests and the chairs being thrown around. People sleeping with each
other’s brothers-in-law. Who’s the baby’s daddy? There’s such train wrecks and everyone is trying

[20:54] [Phoebe] to run up everybody for their ratings. Oh, it’s horrible. It’s absolutely horrible.
And then, you know, in the 90s, AIDS became really huge and monogamy became more valued than ever.

[21:10] [Unknown] Right. So, you know, people started to kind of, I don’t know, settle back into traditional values.
Yes. That’s very well said. That’s very well said. So let’s contrast this a little bit with

[21:30] [Ed] envy. In society, yes. Envy is considered one of the 10 commandments, or I should say it’s
in the commandment, thou shalt not covet another man’s wife.
It’s also one of the seven deadly sins. So anybody who’s watched seven knows this one.
And in the 1990s, it was socially considered a morally reprehensible emotion. So once again,
jealousy, envy, these things were frowned upon societally. Yeah. And what’s also really interesting

[22:10] [Phoebe] is in individualistic and capitalist countries, US or Great Britain, envy flourishes as individualism
naturally because it makes people compare themselves to one another. Materialism, competitiveness,

[22:28] [Ed] and status all manifest as envy. Right. This carried all the way through post-World War Two.
I mean, the phrase is keeping up with the Joneses. Oh, yeah. They’re the envy of the
neighborhood. Yes. Like, these phrases pop up over and over again. Yes. Like, you’ve got to have
what your neighbor has. So you kind of envy it. And that’s the whole consumerism, consumption,
to excess even because it’s drilled into us to buy, buy, buy. I have to have the latest coolest
phone. Apple watch. You name the device. We’ve all got to have the latest version of it. And the
thing that you have isn’t good anymore because there’s a better one. That’s right. There’s always a

[23:18] [Phoebe] better one. So Guerrero and Anderson State, people strive to be praiseworthy and be compared
favorably with their peers. Yet when people appear to praiseworthy, they’re likely to engender envy
from others and tend to be resented and disliked. So you’ve got to keep up with them, but don’t get
too far ahead because then it’s bad. Yeah. A little bit of this healthy competition. I so
remember this with neighbors. It was so weird. Yeah. I’d see it on my block. So and so would get
like a lawnmower, the newest lawnmower and his neighbor had to one up him and he’d get the
riding lawnmower or someone would get a boat and then he went out and got the better speed boat.
Right. It was stupid. It was insanely stupid.

[24:23] [Ed] So both jealousy and envy revolve around desire at their core.
Jealousy’s desire focuses on preserving an existing relationship
in the face of threats and envy desires focus on wanting something that one does not have.

[24:45] [Phoebe] Yeah. That’s a pretty good summary. Now we’re going to go into some of the biological reasons of
jealousy, which I found fascinating when I was doing some of this research. Yeah. It was
absolutely fascinating. I loved it. All right. So you want to start with some of the biological

[25:09] [Ed] reasons. Yeah. Let’s go straight into the binobos here. Yeah. So all primates experience jealousy.
It is a biological pull and a form of tribal protection. Our brain builds this
mental interpretation and story around the innate nature of our genes, which confuses us when we

[25:33] [Unknown] try to compare it with the urges against what this societal norm is, this programming that we have.

[25:43] [Phoebe] Right. And in gangbang situations. All right. Here we go.
Our body goes into overdrive to be that, well, actually, you should probably

[25:59] [Unknown] to be the winning sperm to impregnate the female. Yeah. There’s this interesting relationship where you

[26:06] [Ed] get, and I’m trying to remember the term for it, but there’s this, there’s this like testosterone
thing that goes around where all of the men start competing with each other to be that

[26:22] [Unknown] dominant male, that the impregnating male. So these gangbang situations raise the male sperm count

[26:30] [Phoebe] and produce stronger ejaculations. Yeah. So something physically, biologically starts to happen.

[26:38] [Ed] Right. Because you’ve got to impregnate the female. Right. You have no control over that. That
just happens. And this is one of the reasons why the the boom boom room, the playrooms are so
invigorating because there’s competing sex going on. Right. Right. Tricks your brain into thinking
that you’re competing to have your genes passed on. This is why nudist resorts typically limit

[27:09] [Phoebe] the single men because of this sperm competition and testosterone natural because it naturally
goes up, which we had talked about. And then you mix in some alcohol and then everything gets all

[27:25] [Ed] wonky and kind of dicey. And they get all silver back and start beating their chest. That’d be

[27:33] [Phoebe] awesome. I’d love to see someone start doing that at the pool. Okay. It could happen. So the bigger

[27:43] [Ed] the competition, the bigger the penis, humans, and this is a very interesting thing, have the
largest and thickest penis in proportion to their size. So obviously horses have very large
penises, but they’re really big animals. Right. So for our size, we’re the largest. We are more
socially sexual due to this. And therefore the women are more promiscuous, I wish.
Women have been socialized not to be promiscuous. And they repress themselves, which is why this

[28:22] [Phoebe] lifestyle is so fun and freeing. Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s it’s it’s turning. It’s changing. And
being in a lifestyle is definitely an awakening to your sexuality. It’s it’s pretty awesome.

[28:42] [Ed] If you allow it to be, it’s pretty awesome. It’s okay to be promiscuous as long as you’re doing it
together with consent. Right. Consentual non monogamy’s hot. Yeah. That’s pretty safe.

[28:58] [Phoebe] All right. So we also had some email from listeners in Portugal. And the listener writes,
how do I overcome jealousy when I see my girlfriend have an awesome orgasm with another man?
And how do I keep it from destroying my ego?

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you’d actually pay for on land. Plus when you’re looking to connect with other couples who know how
to have fun, let’s just say Virgin attracts a very specific type of adventurous. No wonder bread

[30:05] [Unknown] cruisers here, just your people. The first thing to share between one another is good communication
and listening. Talk with one another about all your concerns and fears. It may be really weird

[30:30] [Ed] seeing your partner have sex with someone else right in front of you, especially the first time.
Oh yeah. For some people, this seems really natural and is a turn on. It was for me.

[30:42] [Phoebe] Right. But for me, it took me about two years to get used to that. Right.
And I don’t know why. Again, different people, different backgrounds, different perceptions.
You know, for you was very normal. For me, it was really weird. And so, you know, you’ll never know

[31:06] [Unknown] when you’re going to be jealous or not. Ed and I tried to prepare ourselves for these potential

[31:14] [Phoebe] moments that might come up because we had heard about jealousy cropping up in the lifestyle. And

[31:24] [Guest] it was, again, portrayed as something really negative, right? And so, sometimes when I was feeling

[31:34] [Unknown] envious, I would have, you know, Ed asked me questions. So, I’d have him kind of check in with me.

[31:44] [Phoebe] Are you okay? How you doing? And I had to be honest. And being honest was sometimes hard for me.

[31:53] [Unknown] I had to tell him the truth. And sometimes it was hard because I didn’t want to affect his good time.
And I was afraid that if I was honest, it would keep him from having good time. Right.

[32:10] [Phoebe] Ruined the night. Exactly. Exactly. So, what we learned is honesty always is, it’s just best. It always
works out. And, you know, sometimes now when Ed will ask if I’m okay, sometimes I might say, hey,
you know, I really need you right now. And so, then he’ll finish giving the attention. He’s
giving with the other woman. And then he’ll come over and he’ll get all lovey-dovey up on me and

[32:45] [Unknown] give me what I need. And then either it’s done for the night with the other couple or what happens

[32:53] [Phoebe] often is I’m fine. I got what I needed. I’m reassured. And then we go back to playing with the other

[33:01] [Unknown] couple. Pat’s me on my ass and sends me on my way. Right. And honestly, it’s never been a bad

[33:07] [Ed] experience for me to take the condom off and go fuck my wife really well. And then be able to
satisfy her to the point where she’s like, okay, I’m reassured. I’m good. Now you can go have sex
with the other woman again. This is a win-win. There’s no, there’s nothing bad happening here.

[33:29] [Phoebe] Right. This is all good. Yeah. I know. That’s awesome. And so, you know, I guess regarding, you know,
regarding your ego, this would fall on the side of envy and thinking or knowing that your partner
is getting something you can’t give. Sometimes it’s false. Sometimes this is true.
Let’s see. An example, a true example would be you might be envious of the man with a black
cock because you have a white one. Well, this is an opportunity to so perfect and become more
comfortable with who you are. And then you’ll be able to enjoy giving in the gift of sharing
your partner with someone else because you can’t possibly ever give her a black cock because
you don’t have one. Right. So then a false example would be you may think she’s having a better
orgasm with the other person than with you. Better is relative. Right. And we always, Ed and I always

[34:33] [Ed] just say what? It is different. Yeah. It’s not better. It’s not sometimes it can be worse.
Yes. Sometimes it can be worse. Yeah. But it’s rarely, it’s hard to quantify better. And I think

[34:54] [Unknown] it’s different would be maybe that particular night. This woman was very enthusiastic.

[35:02] [Ed] Well, that’s not a bad experience. Right. But you can’t really equate that particular moment with
all of the other moments that you’ve had with your partner. Right. So have this

[35:19] [Phoebe] library, this vault of history and experiences together. There’s no way. I also like to think that

[35:28] [Ed] if she’s having a really good time, that’s a learning opportunity for you. What is that person doing
the guy or the girl that’s pleasureing your wife? What is this new trick that he has? Maybe it’s not
a new trick. Maybe it’s just a perception. But you might learn something new that you can benefit
from. And we have. Yeah. We’ve learned some new tricks. Some twirly things.
Some flat tongue things. So that envy component, causing you to or inspiring you to improve,

[36:12] [Phoebe] that’s a really good example of that. See, back around to the whole cognitive where it’s

[36:19] [Ed] introspective and awareness. It takes a level of confidence that I can do that too.
Not he’s doing something that I could never do. Right. It’s probably not true. Right. That

[36:38] [Unknown] perception is probably wrong. Right. But there you go. Yeah. So, you know, again, be honest with
the other couple. And, you know, well, the other thing I would say is, if you’re playing with

[37:02] [Phoebe] another couple, maybe you’re new, be honest with them. They will be accommodating and understand.
You know, if you you’re going to have to let them know what your preferences are anyway. Right.
And what your boundaries are. And, you know, if they’re the right fit, they’re going to respect that.
And most couples understand jealousy or envy can sometimes pop up. And a good couple will respect
your honesty to stop, reconnect with your spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend, lover. You know, and
not be mad about it. You know what? If they get pissed off and, you know, kick you out of the house
man. That’s, that’s not good. I mean, good, good riddance, obviously. Yeah. We’ve never had that.
We’ve never even seen that. No. For the most part, people are like just amazing, like the best

[38:05] [Ed] people ever. So jealousy can be a positive emotion by revealing how much you care and love the one
you’re protecting and envy can be a motivating factor and a tool for self-betterment.
With either of these emotions, don’t let them overpower the other positive feelings and
emotions you have for your partner. If you’re experiencing them, consider why you are feeling that
way and talk with your partner about your feelings. If you went into this together, you need to be
able to talk about this together and process it together. By helping each other understand
your feelings, we can process and overcome these feelings of jealousy and envy.

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