Halloween Swinger Event 2021

[00:02] [Guest] Welcome to Swinger University. Your horizontal enrichment program, slip into something
more comfortable. It’s class time. Here are your hosts, Ed and Phoebe.

[00:21] [Ed] Hi, this is Ed. And this is Phoebe. Today we’re covering a lot of ground for Halloween
2021. Yes. We’re a little behind, but we’re a little behind. Well, we’re behind in our
episodes because so much stuff has happened in the last couple of months. So we’re not

[00:41] [Unknown] really behind. We’re just catching up, so to speak. We’re going to talk about some

[00:49] [Ed] Swinger dynamics, a no-condemn incident, a gallant introduction, the fabulous 4am
for some inappropriate touching a swing or orgy with a tens unit. That’s exciting. And our
adventures took us to three completely separate parties. One was a house party and two others

[01:16] [Phoebe] were a two-night hotel takeover party. Yes, where the crowd changes. Right, because some

[01:25] [Ed] people could only come for one night. But before we start on that sexy topic, Phoebe and

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[02:38] [Ed] really appreciate all of our listeners and we appreciate all the support that you give
to us and our podcast. Enough business. Let’s talk about Halloween. Yes. Oh my goodness.

[02:52] [Phoebe] Events in our area really opened up late summer and fall after people were feeling a little
bit safer post vaccine. House parties were happening a few more times a month. You did
have those house parties that were doing it regardless of COVID. Right. But they started
to pick up once vaccines started to come out and become available to our age group. And
our local promoter, lures, did not disappoint for Halloween. Yeah. And people were itching
to get out to these big takeover parties because they’re just, they’re so great. Well,

[03:34] [Ed] they’re big events in a normal here. And in this particular here, people were even
more bottled up. Yeah. Just really wanted to get out. Thanks. Just to get out and do

[03:45] [Phoebe] shit stuff. So our first Halloween party was at our favorite unicorn, our single corn
as we call her. Yeah. She loves throwing parties. She’s really good at it. And she had a Halloween
house party. And Ed and I were superheroes for this party. Ed was Spider-Man. I was

[04:09] [Ed] Harley Quinn. So we did mix. I understand. We mixed DC and Marvel. That’s okay because

[04:18] [Phoebe] we looked good. We did look at I was the cheerleader Harley Quinn with black and red and the
hair black. One side was black. One side was red. Yeah. Socks black red. Everything black
red. It was super hot. Yeah. So fun. And I wore a butt plug that night. A glowing lit
up butt plug. Linky one. A blinky. Yes. If only it had a remote. Oh, yeah. That would
have been cool too. A vibrating remote that would have been. That would have been double.
Yeah. Fun. Yeah. Okay. So we get there. We get there. And you know, she has a door guard
checks names and make sure people leave without being too intoxicated. And he did a great
job. So we get there. And there’s great music. There’s dancing. Food. Always food. Great
food. And of course, great conversation. Yes. Yes. All kinds of new people there. People

[05:26] [Ed] we hadn’t seen before. And some great costumes. She had a great costume that she was sort

[05:35] [Phoebe] of lasted for about five minutes. She was a mummy. Wasn’t she? She was a mummy. Oh my
gosh. Okay. So I think she was wrapped. Was it toilet paper or tissue? It was a cloth
wrapping of some sort. But it was it kept falling apart and or falling off. Let’s just
say those boobs would not be contained. No. No. No. They would not be contained. She
so cute. And she kept pulling it up and it kept falling down. And so she’s, you know,
she tried her best. Yes. She was basically naked most of the night, which was fabulous.
I hated it. It was terrible. So that was that was fun. People did have some fun costumes.
Your costume was was was great and super sexy because it was skin tight and you can basically
see everything. Right. The full package. Oh yeah. Yeah. Lots to grab. And then of course,

[06:27] [Unknown] it was silky. So, you know, it was fun to touch. Yeah. You were fun to touch body parts

[06:36] [Phoebe] were fun to touch. Yeah. There was there was a there was a lady in the red dress. She was me
the second night gosh darn it. Oh Jessica rabbit. Yes. There was a Jessica rabbit there. So I was
thankful. I didn’t wear the costume that night because I wore it at the hotel party. Right.
She timed your costumes just right. I did. So I did duplicate costumes. Although there was

[07:07] [Ed] another Harley Quinn there, but she was a different version of Harley. Yeah. She was like more

[07:13] [Phoebe] than all American T-shirt, red light and blue Harley Quinn. Yeah. Daddy’s a little monster. Yes.
Yes. So, you know, we’re socializing. We’re having conversation in the kitchen. And
there’s a new couple there and we’re talking with them and it is engaged a little bit more
with with them. I was kind of flitting around and I was snacking and flitting and I’d periodically
come back and check in and then all of a sudden this woman of the couple, you could tell she was
intoxicated because she kept repeating herself. Yes. And and and and making accolades and comments
and and things and I’d say thank you and she kept repeating herself. You could just tell.
All of a sudden and she was making a comment on one of my dresses from from our profile,
from our profile going on and on and on about it. I’m like okay, okay, thank you. And then
I started to get a little uncomfortable and then all of a sudden she’s like she started a
comment on my hair and my current outfit. Now, here’s my hair. My hair is in two ponytails
high on my head and I have red colored spray on one side and black colored spray on the other.
Now the spray is really sticky and it’s kind of hard. Yes. But sticky. All right. So my hair’s not

[08:44] [Unknown] soft and sookie. All of a sudden out of the blue, she’s goes oh my god, your hair is so cute.

[08:53] [Phoebe] And she reaches over and she grabs my ponytail and she yanks my head to the right. I’m like
fuck and so now her hand is kind of caught in my hair a little bit. I look at her like what

[09:17] [Ed] the fuck? I’m confused. Why did you think this was a good idea? How did yes? First,

[09:26] [Phoebe] one, why did you think this was a good idea? Two, how did we transition from? Oh my god,

[09:30] [Unknown] he’s so cute too. Wham! Next injury, right? I was like okay, it’s time to back away.

[09:41] [Phoebe] They are on the no list for the night. Check. Possibly in the future. I’m like what the hell was
that all about? Very aggressive. Oh my god, she was very aggressive. And so anyway, the night
continues and people started heading upstairs, right? Yes. Exciting things started to happen.
Yes. Everyone starts to go upstairs and she had, must have had three or four playrooms and one

[10:12] [Unknown] of them was her master bedroom, which was massive. Right. But everyone was crowded in this small bedroom.

[10:18] [Phoebe] Why? Because the guy with the tens unit wasn’t there. There must have been 20 people in this
tiny little bedroom. Yeah. So of course, we’re all in there watching what’s going on. People are
making noises and yelping and screaming and giggling and making fun orgasmic sounds. And so I’m like
oh, I have to see what’s going on. So guy with the tens unit, was he standing on a pad? Explain

[10:47] [Ed] how this works. He was touching it with one hand. And so one of his hands was passing the current

[10:54] [Phoebe] through. And so then he would transfer it from person to person and then whoever touched.
Anybody who touched. Right. Yeah. So then people were touching body parts and getting off on
clinical, literal zapping and nipple zapping and kissing and that there’s a bunch of laughing
and teasing. And people tried me to get in there and I’m like oh hell no, I don’t want to be zapped.
I don’t want my call it zapped. I want my nipple zapped. No. But people were having a very good
time. Very, very good time. So good grief. That must have been going on for oh gosh, I don’t know,
20 minutes, half hour. Yeah. People were having a really good time. I surprised how much of a
good time they were having with that. But they loved it. Oh yeah. And then people started playing
around the edge. So people started fucking around the edge of the bed. Some people started
fucking at the top of the bed. A little bit. Yep. And so I started feeling frisky and I decided to
I don’t know. Did I? How did you get naked? At some point I was giving you a blowjob. How did this

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appreciate it. Thanks for listening. We had actually been playing in another room. There was

[13:14] [Ed] an orgy room going on. So there’s another whole group in the master bedroom. We were in there.
Yeah. And there was like lots of oral going on. If I remember right, this is where we’ve met the
other stripper. This was our third stripper that we had. Oh, it was a male this time. It was a male
stripper. Oh, he was sexy. Yeah. Phoebe had a little fun with. Oh, he was hot. Oh, I did
that. I fought with him. I fucked his brains out. You kind of broke him. You kind of wore him out.

[13:48] [Phoebe] I did wear him out, which was he’s yeah, pretty hot. Yeah, that was hot. I felt for like, I

[13:54] [Ed] felt pretty good about that. Yeah. And we’d had some fun on the bed. And there was definitely lots of
play time going on with multiple people. Yeah. There were some. There was a squirrel that was
this. There was a squirter. There was a girl who was like super, super active. And like you
just had to barely touch her. I had a little fun with her. I gave someone some oral in that room.
You gave a few people some oral. And yeah. And so there was a lot of fun that it happened
in their first orgy room. So we were all we had stripped most of costumes off. And we were already

[14:37] [Unknown] I think we were just walking around. I think I had Spider-Man around my waist at that point

[14:43] [Ed] because it’s a one-piece suit and it’s big zipper. Anyway. So that explains how we were naked.

[14:50] [Unknown] So that happened first. That happened first. So fun. Good time was had by hall. Yes.

[14:56] [Ed] And we ended up in the smaller room with the 10s unit. Right. And I’m standing in the doorway.

[15:02] [Phoebe] I decided to go down on it. Right. Get him a blowjob, which was so amazing. So we’re basically
standing in the door because it’s so crowded. Only. Yes. And so I’m giving it a head. And the
couple downstairs that broke my neck, the woman that broke my neck, she was standing right next to
head. And she’s going off and she’s like saying stuff, you know. And then I don’t know what happened.
She said something stupid. Oh my god. Thank you. All of a sudden the hand like like a like a snake
again crosses across her body which strikes my head. She grabs both ponytails this time. Right.
Because I’m kneeling down. She’s above me. So she grabs both ponytails, wraps them around her hand
and yanks my head. And and I stop. So my mouth now, it is large. My mouth is small. So I have to be
very careful with my teeth. So I stop immediately because my first thought is don’t fuck up Ed’s dick.

[16:22] [Ed] Yeah. Cause the last thing that I want Phoebe to get chomp jostled and chomp down on this talk

[16:31] [Phoebe] in the middle of a blowjob is dangerous. I don’t know what she’s thinking in the first place.

[16:35] [Ed] I’m not appreciating her now interrupting this at all. So that’s my first thought. So I just

[16:41] [Phoebe] freeze. I freeze with my mouth. And then and then you know, Ed pulls out and then I’m like, give
her the fuck off me. Oh like screaming. Get the fuck off. Get the fuck off. I am pissed now. Like what the
hell. I am so mad. Right. So now Ed, she, she’s trying to remove her hand, which is pulling my
head more. Ed is trying to unwind her hand from my hair like a rope knot, right? You’re like
your necklaces have gotten tight and twisted. This is what it felt like. He’s trying to remove her
hand from my hair. It was a mess. It was a hot mess. I stood up. I swear. I wanted a puncher in
the face, but she was a big girl. So I knew I would have lost. And she was intoxicated. But I
could have won if I was a little more. But I was the more sober one than her. But who knows? I don’t
know. Who’s not worth it? Who’s not worth it? And that’s not me anyway. But I felt like it.
Yes. Oh my God. My neck hurt for about three or four days after that. It was not fun. I was so
angry. And so now actually after listening to Mix Nets podcast, the misses on there. I don’t
know if I can say their names because I don’t know if they’re totally out. But Mrs. Nets, I could totally
relate to some of her perspective on when she gets angry. She’s like, I don’t cut you. You are on

[18:12] [Ed] no list. I’m like, yep. Totally get it. Yep. Yeah. They definitely kind of blew it. Oh,

[18:20] [Phoebe] oh yeah. I like that on her. Dan. I mean, I mean, there’s not much to understand. I mean,
she had an aggressive nature. It came out with whatever drugs they’re alcohol. She was using
I get it. But holy cow. I’ve never had anyone like touch me in that way. That was just weird.

[18:39] [Ed] Yeah, it was it was very strange. And that wasn’t the end of kind of the weird behavior for people
at this particular party. Oh, yeah. We had some friends who we’ve met a couple times at different
parties, different house parties. They’re relatively new to the lifestyle. Super sweet. Super sweet
couple. Very sexy. Younger. Great people. They had somebody like slip a condom off and have sex
with them. Like out of the blue didn’t know what was going on. All of a sudden they’re like,

[19:18] [Phoebe] wait a second. Something’s not right here. Or she grabbed his penis and shoved it inside her.
It was close enough. Something there was something on protected. Yeah. And they were not happy.

[19:33] [Ed] Happy with that. Oh god. Prepared for that. No. And like I said, relatively new. And like just
starting to figure out the lifestyle. And then something like this happens. Super freaked out.

[19:44] [Phoebe] They have young kids. So, you know, you’re in that mindset. You’re like,
bad things can happen. Right. I’m a parent. I have young kids. I need to be around for them. And so,
you know, I’m not going to have this hobby ruin my health and, you know, my family. Yeah.

[19:59] [Ed] So, they left upset. Oh yeah. We left shortly thereafter because we were a little
period. Yeah. The whole hair pulling incident. Our evening wasn’t ruined. And we didn’t
hadn’t heard the details about what had happened with them until later. Right. But it was a weird

[20:17] [Phoebe] night. And it was late. But then it was weird. Yeah. There was a lot of drinking going on.

[20:23] [Ed] And we noticed a few couples that were pretty hammered. Yes. Which was a little unusual. We
don’t usually see that many couples like really hammered. Yeah. And I think it was just because,

[20:41] [Phoebe] you know, Halloween people are it’s Halloween. Letting people are like, yeah, party. I know.

[20:49] [Ed] So, house party one in the bag. We still had a good time. Yes. A lot of fun in the
orgy room for sure. We had fun dressing up, of course, who doesn’t like to dress up. Right.

[21:02] [Phoebe] And with the exception of the hair pulling, we had a good time. So, the second Halloween party was
at X. They had two nights that they rented the hotel ballroom. Right. The first night was a
pajama party. And then the second night was Halloween. This is where Ed was Roger Rabbit. And I was

[21:27] [Ed] Jessica. Yeah. Yeah. We figured out a way to do it so that I wasn’t some dorky costume. Yes.
You know, Roger rabbits. He’s not a sexy guy. No. Roger’s kind of a dork. Right. And it always
bothers me with men’s Halloween costumes. I know. I end up looking like walking dildos. I just don’t

[21:49] [Phoebe] get why no one comes up with sexy men’s costumes. You either have or you’re a dork. Yeah,

[21:57] [Unknown] you’re like a you’re a SpongeBob. Right. Yeah. Just dumb. Yeah. No. Dumb costumes. So you had a bow tie

[22:07] [Ed] suspenders. Yes. Red pants. Oh, red sexy tight fitting red. Red pants. So I had all the right
colors and gloves and everything for Roger. But I was like a hip sexy Roger. Oh, yeah.

[22:25] [Phoebe] Which was kind of fun. It was super sexy. Yep. And then, you know, just a rabbit. With the wig,

[22:31] [Ed] I had the wig too. So time to really help. 10 Phoebe nailed Jessica. I mean, I nailed Jessica
later. But Phoebe definitely has the figure for Jessica Rabbit. She is Jessica Rabbit.

[22:47] [Phoebe] I have sparkly nylons and the red sparkly shoes. Oh, yeah. Everything. Just perfect figure for it.

[22:55] [Ed] Just. Oh, it’s fancy. It’s so so hot. I’ve always wanted Phoebe to dress up as she did it.
I was very happy about the whole thing. All right. Play parties. Pre parties. It’s all about the

[23:16] [Phoebe] pre parties and the post parties. In fact, we never wind up in the playrooms that they provide anymore.
Not anymore. We’re always just in people’s rooms. Which is great. And we had like three or four

[23:30] [Ed] pre-party invitations. And we ended up in like two. Yeah. And they were meeting greets. They were
just, you know, come in, shake hands, give them a snack. Off we go. Sometimes there’s some playing
pre-party. Sometimes there’s pre-party playing. But in this particular event, there wasn’t. Right.
And we ended up in one of the pre-parties with a good friend of ours. We’ve known her for years. And
we knew her from her previous relationship. But now she’s in a new chapter in her life. Yes.

[24:06] [Unknown] And she had a bunch of her friends that were there. And yeah, somehow in the middle of this,

[24:15] [Ed] we ended up something came up about podcasts. Oh yeah. And I don’t remember how it came up.

[24:27] [Phoebe] But yeah, she’s like, she’s like, I don’t know. A light bulb went off in her head. Something about

[24:36] [Ed] your voice. I showed her our card at when she started talking about podcasts and, you know,
good, good podcast to recommend. And she said something about Swinger University and that she loves
Swinger University. Oh. And then it’s like, all right. I’m like, forget it. I’m just, I got to whip it,

[24:54] [Unknown] I got to whip it out on this. We’re coming out. So I pulled the card out and I showed it to her.

[24:59] [Ed] And she was like, Oh my God. So we’ve known her for a while. Yeah. Talked to her over and over again
for years. Mm-hmm. She didn’t know. Mm-hmm. She listened to our podcast. She knew us, but she didn’t
make the connection. Mm-hmm. And then she was made the connection when she saw the card. Yeah.

[25:21] [Phoebe] It was kind of sad. Oh my God. Yeah. It’s you guys. It was great. Which was fun. Cool. Yeah.

[25:29] [Ed] Which of course brings up the whole, like, how secret is your secret identity really? And
do we need to, how secret do we need to be with the whole thing? And so, yeah, we’re relaxing a

[25:43] [Phoebe] little more this year with it. And we’re feeling a little more comfortable. I remember eight years
ago when we started this, we were, my God, just even keeping the secret that we were Swingers was,
was scary. Right. It was almost like, you know, the first time you have sex, probably as a woman,
you think that there’s this big neon sign across your forehead that says non-virgin, right? I lost
my virginity last night. You just look, think you look and feel different than it. Someone’s just

[26:12] [Ed] going to know by looking at you. Right. Which of course they can’t. No. But that’s how I felt. I’ve

[26:17] [Phoebe] thought I was 16 again, you know, losing my virginity. Yes, that’s 16. Now it’s kinky back then.
But now it’s probably earlier. It’s at 13. Everyone’s losing their virginity at 12 and 13.
But a whole other topic. Yes. That’s a whole other. Yes. Yes. So, where was I? Where was I?
So coming out? Oh, yes. Coming out. So, you know, catch 22. I don’t want people to feel
uncomfortable and I don’t want them to feel intimidated and I don’t want them. I just,

[26:52] [Ed] I just want them to feel comfortable. Right. And we’ve we’ve kept our identity secret
for some reason, not exactly sure. I don’t think we ever sat down ahead of time and said,

[27:05] [Unknown] we need to do it for these reasons. Here’s why we sail on virgin. It’s adults only. No kids

[27:18] [Guest] screaming at breakfast. No family buffet lines. Just champagne at noon. Late night pool parties

[27:26] [Unknown] and people who actually want to be there. The vibe? Think boutique hotel that happens to float.

[27:35] [Guest] Tattoo parlors, drag brunch, restaurants you’d actually pay for on land. Plus, when you’re looking
to connect with other couples who know how to have fun, let’s just say virgin attracts a very
specific type of adventurous. No wonder bread cruisers here. Just your people. Right.

[28:00] [Phoebe] It’s just we just, I don’t know. I was just part of keeping the secret. And, you know, we’re not
boastful people are not like, hey, we have a podcast. Come listen to us. You know, so, you know,
for the last two years, we’ve just quietly been marketing ourselves online. We haven’t really been

[28:21] [Ed] saying it to anyone at any of the parties. Not a word like other than X we put up the banner

[28:29] [Phoebe] and we have handouts and stuff to get people to listen to the podcast, but we’re not walking around

[28:35] [Ed] with t-shirts and signs going in. Nobody knows that it’s us parties, but they know that
and Phoebe are at parties because we talk about the parties. People have made the connection that,
oh my god, we’ve been to those parties too. We were probably at the same party. We may have even
met you, but of course they don’t know who we are, so they don’t know that they’ve met us.
But this was the first event where we were kind of like,

[29:03] [Unknown] all right. Fuck it. Fuck it. It’s just, because they already know we’re swingers.

[29:11] [Ed] You’re right. By the way, listeners, we’re swingers. If that wasn’t clear before.
So the people who listen to the podcast, if they happen to be at one of the events,
they already know that we’re swingers. They know that we go to the event. So it’s,

[29:25] [Phoebe] I just don’t want to scare people away because, you know, people will ask, you know,
oh, are you going to talk about this? I go, yeah, I am not all of it, not in the same podcast,
and I never use names. And sometimes I change the scenario or the situation. So
you never really know, unless you were there, you never really know. And even then we’re, you may

[29:52] [Ed] not connect what the story is with your particular story, depending on the level of detail.
Yep. Or very clever with those. We try to be, we think we’re very clever. No one said,
oh my god, you totally called us out that time. Right. Because again, I’m trying to protect
people. Well, we don’t, we don’t ever want to call people out. We’ve heard podcasts where they,
they like, oh, my god, they like flambé people. And we’re totally not into that. I wish I could
call them out right now. Well, there’s a few of them, but yeah, we’re not. We’re not going to
that. That’s not us. We don’t do that. We don’t flambé. Just in private. Not. Yeah. Oh, my god,
did you brush a little bit at people who actually do that and podcasts, you do that. So this was
the first event where we kind of came out of the closet a little bit and started going,
you know what? We’re just going to kind of own it. And in the, and we’ll talk about this for
New Year’s. But when we have come out to other people, people are like, oh my god, are you,

[30:58] [Phoebe] you are going to talk about this, right? Yeah. Some people want us to, which is funny. They’re like,

[31:03] [Ed] we really want us to talk about it. We want to be able to like listen back and go, I want to hear

[31:07] [Phoebe] all the details again. Right. Yeah. That’s true. That’s kind of fun. Yeah. And you get to hear it

[31:12] [Ed] from a different perspective. Yeah. You can hear how good you were in bed from
talks. Yeah. Which is fun. So there you go. Lots of connections made. We didn’t play at that

[31:25] [Phoebe] pre-party. But, you know, it was relatively early. Yeah. And, and, and we circulated and we mangled

[31:32] [Ed] and we saw people and met people. And it was a lot of fun. It was a, the PJ parties tend to be a

[31:39] [Unknown] very relaxing environment and tend to be a very connection meet and greet kind of an environment,

[31:47] [Phoebe] which is fun. Right. Right. Yeah. We didn’t, we didn’t play with anyone at the, the pajama party.
Not that it wasn’t earlier. Yeah. Night for us. But made good connections. Yep. Yep.

[32:00] [Ed] Which leads us into the next night. Well, we’ve made some connections and we decided to call
those connections in. Oh, we did. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Okay. So we get downstairs. I’m

[32:13] [Phoebe] wearing Jessica Rabbit. It is Raja. And so we get into the, to the, to the room, to the ballroom
and people really to, to always go all out. Oh, they did. So I feel like they did better this

[32:27] [Ed] year. Even costumes were great. Less scary, more sexy this time. Yes. Yes. There were a few
scary costumes, but there was a lot of like, much more sexy costumes, which we really appreciate.
I mean, I’m all in favor of like scary costumes for Halloween. Right. But at a swing or event,
I want to be turned on not my own. Yeah. Right. Right. And spread higher the erection. Don’t

[32:55] [Phoebe] frighten it away. Right. So at what point did this next scenario happen? Because I want to
describe what that was. Yes. So right away, it feels like it was right away. It was pretty early

[33:10] [Ed] in the evening. Okay. So when we first arrived at the hotel the night before, we had pulled into
the parking lot. And I had seen a threesome kind of walking up to their cars. They had like left
one car and they were dropping stuff off. And they were obviously had just checked in or just

[33:30] [Phoebe] checking in. You know, you’re a Swinger when you’re like scoping out people in the parking lot
from your third store balcony in your hotel room. And you know that they’re swingers because

[33:39] [Ed] there’s three of them. And it’s obviously something kinky between three people. They’re like,
oh, they’re here at the party as well. Right. So that was very that was the first
introduction of them. Very sexy group. And we were kind of watching them turns out they were on
the same floor as us like a couple doors down. Yep. So we were neighbors, which was great. And we’d
talk to them again at the pajama party later that night. And that was fun. We kind of made a
connection. It was clear that there was some mutual attraction at the very least. But
so the next night I got a wild hair and decided I’m going to take our advice and walk up to this
couple and just put it out there that, hey, we’re interested in playing with you guys later if
you’re interested too. And they said absolutely. Wait, what? Where’s my story part?

[34:40] [Phoebe] That was the story. That is not the story. Well, what was the good part? So we walk into the ballroom
done. Oh, you want to do the whole build up? Oh, yeah. Cause the the gallon introduction. Hello.
And we approach the threesome who is now a five sum. Yes. Five sum. And the five sum looks amazing
because they’re all dressed similar. They’re all in like black and white with wings on their backs.
Feathers and wings and masks. They look. Oh, yeah, elegant. Like right out of heaven, sexy heaven.
I mean, and so immediately, I’m like, oh, my God, I have to walk up to, oh, it’s our friends.
And so I walk up to them. And as soon as I walk up, Mr. Gallant goes, he takes my hand, my hands
down by myself. And I have a long purple glove on my arm. He takes my arm. Yeah, he takes my hand.
He lifts it up and he kisses the back of my hand. I just melt. I literally felt my stomach
flippant. I went, okay, we got a fuck. Yeah, that was super done. Yeah, that was like,
and then shortly out there after like 30 seconds later, a minute, it’s like, hey, we need to make

[36:05] [Ed] this happen. I’m like, yeah. And we did, which also turned me on. And then I really wanted a
fuck. So we had to go. It was a, it was a very sexy buildup from the previous night to this night.
And then of course, the kiss on the glove, which was good grief. Those people are super sexy.
So we go to their room. Yeah, because we dance for a little while. We had a good time. Yeah.

[36:36] [Phoebe] But eventually, of course, went to their room. Yes. So we go to the room. And they were an

[36:48] [Unknown] interesting couple there. They had good friends there at the time. I thought they were

[36:55] [Phoebe] a dedicated for some, but they’re not. But they just have a good regularly. They play regularly
with a couple that they was known for a long time that they’re very close with. Right. And so

[37:07] [Unknown] these scheduled play dates on a regular basis. And they tend to travel together. So they were all

[37:12] [Phoebe] there together. I think they may have been sharing a room or a joining rooms. And then there was
one other single guy that was a good friend of theirs too, that had come down to play with everyone.
And so the five of them over there, it was, and it was us. And then was somebody else there too?
In that room, did we drag other people with us? There were a couple. There were a couple other

[37:38] [Unknown] people in the room at the time. Yeah. Because I remember one of them being in costume. And so there

[37:44] [Ed] was like an extra single female. And I think there were a couple other people. And I think our

[37:50] [Phoebe] pocket friends may have also. Oh, okay. Okay. Cool. So yeah. So it was a good, yeah, about 12, 14
people in there. Yeah. It was nice. It was nice crowd. And then at some point, so we’re, we’re

[38:08] [Guest] playing. I, I’m playing with, with the mister. Which was nice. Yes. A very nice ass. It’s very firm.

[38:19] [Phoebe] And I really liked grabbing it. So that was really fun. And just grabbing it. And you know,
when a guy is just like a tree, you could just like crawl all over and just like, yes, you know,

[38:34] [Unknown] and Mr. Mix nuts is like that too. You just like climb on him. You climb on him. That’s what I

[38:40] [Phoebe] like is climb all over him. And so yeah. So that was a lot of fun. And there was some sort of
single guy debacle going on in the background, which I was a little oblivious to because I’m having,

[38:55] [Ed] I’m having a good time out of it. The posts took care of their room and dealt with all that stuff,

[39:00] [Phoebe] which was. Yeah. It was, you know, it wasn’t, you know, earth shattering or anything like that,

[39:06] [Unknown] it was had a conversation. And then he left and there you go. And that was that. So, you know,

[39:14] [Phoebe] it was really nice if they, they all were able to just manage that in such a graceful way. Yeah.
And, you know, nobody’s feelings were heard or if they were, they got repaired later. And all of

[39:24] [Ed] all was good. Yeah. And so we ended up playing with this five sim for a little while. The singles
that had been in there, you know, they played for a little bit. And then they moved on. They had

[39:35] [Unknown] other parties that they wanted to go to. But we ended up switching and playing in different groups

[39:44] [Ed] with different people. And so the two of us and the five of them ended up and I got the mingling

[39:51] [Phoebe] and playing. I got to play with the other, uh, the other woman of their good friends. Yes.

[39:57] [Unknown] Got to play with her. I went down on her. She was fun. She was very excited. She’s very excited.

[40:06] [Phoebe] She’s very beautiful. Her and her husband are so passionate. I want to talk about that because
the passion between her and her husband and the connection was so intense that it gets you off.
Like it’s, it’s exciting. Like you can feed off of that. Right. It was so sweet and sexy and
passionate and all the same time. You just, oh, it was incredible. It’s, it’s very energizing. Yeah.

[40:40] [Ed] Watch a sexy couple that have a good dynamic. Oh, yeah. And how they play off of each other.
And the whole room was, was like that. We were all kind of into our own partners,

[40:54] [Phoebe] but we were obviously into the room. Oh, my gosh. Wait, we forgot about the, we forgot about how it
started. So remember the, um, the, uh, the woman from the red woman. Yes. We’ll call it the red
woman. How she said, she started the party. She’s like, oh, right. What’d she say? She’s like,

[41:16] [Ed] is there anything that’s on your bucket list thing, something that you’ve never done before?

[41:20] [Unknown] She’s like, let’s try something new. Yes. So we ended up ha, doing
DP with her show her husband and I double penetrated her. Yes. Okay. So here I am. My favorite spot

[41:38] [Phoebe] to view is right between the man’s legs from underneath because I love seeing, you know,
the full on penetration. Yes. The full of the lips, everything wrapping around the shaft of
the penis. I love that view. So here I am. I’m down there like a video photographer or something
without a camera. And I’m just taking it all in. I’m trying to capture it into my memory forever.
And it is. It’s sealed in there. I could still see it. So he’s on the bottom. She’s in the middle
and I’m on top. But what I didn’t know until the next day probably because the room was a little dim
was that both of your dicks were in her vagina. I thought one was in her butt and one was in
her vagina. But now it was DVP. Yes. So then I was like, what? So you know, here you are the next day,
you know, you’re recounting all this stuff with your partner and you go, you’re like, what?
What? How did I miss that? I was right there. I was. And then of course I had to ask Ed. I was like,
well, how was that? Your dick was touching another dick. What did you think? And you said,

[42:50] [Unknown] it was in her vagina. Exactly. There was a vagina involved. That’s pretty much all I was concerned.

[42:57] [Phoebe] I was like super shocked and like super excited because I thought, my God, we had never talked
about this before. This was super cool. I mean, these are the things that happen that you just
don’t know are going to happen in the moment. You don’t know if you’re going to be okay with it.
You don’t plan for it. You don’t plan for it. You’re just like, it happened. Wow, that was pretty

[43:15] [Ed] fucking cool. Sure. I’ll do that again. It wasn’t on. It wasn’t on anybody’s agenda for the night.
There wasn’t a menu item that offered that. It just happened. It’s so great. I was like, oh my God.

[43:28] [Phoebe] I love those moments because those are the things you just can’t plan for it. It’s fun. It’s fun.
And it’s spontaneous. I like the fun and the energy of those moments when you have those connections
with people. And everybody had a good time. Yeah. And consequently, we ended up playing to like

[43:48] [Ed] 4.30 in the morning. Yeah. We were up. My God. A crazy late and

[43:54] [Phoebe] had great conversations. Shared really deep personal things about our lives. We fucked for a long time.

[44:02] [Ed] And then after that, we just talked for at least an hour. At least an hour. We hydrated,

[44:08] [Phoebe] got our energy back. We thought maybe we’d go at it again, but then we realized, oh, the sun’s
going to come up. We should go to bed. Exactly. It was just, it was amazing. I, you know, it’s those
times where you’ve got that journey, the validation, the exploration, and the courage, and the
strength and the bravery. And it’s all super inspiring. Right. Yeah. We, we learned a lot about them.

[44:38] [Ed] We had a really good time with them. And we’ve connected with them again. And we plan on

[44:43] [Phoebe] connecting with them again in the future because absolutely. They’re fun and comfortable people.

[44:49] [Ed] People are super sexy. And we get along with them really. So easy to be around. So easy.
It’s crazy. I love it. And this is, this is really what we enjoy about swinging. And that’s that
just uninhibited naked, raw, real people judging you. It’s not, you know, there’s no preconceptions.

[45:19] [Unknown] There’s no agenda. People are just genuinely enjoying your company. Yeah. And it’s

[45:29] [Phoebe] fucking hot. It’s great. And I, what I remember to the most about Mr. Red is that he was so present.
He wasn’t, if he was high, I didn’t notice it. If he was, I don’t think he was because he was so
present and present and so relaxed. So it was, it just made me so comfortable. Yeah. Yeah.
And I, there just wasn’t anything. There were no weird vibes. Nothing, it keyed nothing straight.
It was, it was, it was really comfortable. It was just so much fun, so relaxing, so exciting. Yeah.
I know. Oh my gosh. Okay. So I’m still gushing, but we have to end and wrap up this episode.

[46:21] [Ed] Would you like to wrap it up? Sure. So don’t let the one-off incidents ruin swinging for you. The
hair pulling, the random, bad behavior, awful, because you can learn from those incidents and you
can find a way to continue to enjoy the rest of the community. Right. You can build those
relationships and you can find people that you really connect with. There are so many
pluses to the lifestyle, whether you swap partners or you don’t. Exactly. You don’t even have to

[46:58] [Phoebe] soft swap with anyone. You just hang out with the sexy energy of

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