15 Reasons Swinging is Better than Dating

[00:03] [Guest] You’re listening to Swinger University with Ed and Phoebe slip into something more comfortable
It’s class time
Here are your hosts Ed and Phoebe

[00:22] [Ed] Hello, this is Ed and this is Phoebe
Today we are talking about why swinging is better than being single
You’re all the time about how being single is so liberating and sexually charged
We thought we’d take a tongue-in-cheek approach to this and flip it around a bit
So here’s our top 15 reasons why swinging is better than being single

[00:58] [Phoebe] Swinging is better than being single because
There’s nothing like having a wingman for a partner and if they’re in on it they’ll stand to benefit too

[01:19] [Ed] There’s nothing like having your your wife or your husband stand next to you and help you pick chicks out
In a nightclub or a bar

[01:32] [Unknown] right like

[01:34] [Ed] That’s hot. Uh-huh. They’re in on it. It’s like your dirty secret. I know. I love that because

[01:42] [Phoebe] This horse will be standing there at the bar and we like I’ll elbow you honey
Like check her out. Look how confident she is. Look at her dress. Oh my god
Oh, she’s flashing everything

[01:57] [Ed] Most of the time the conversation goes like this honey. Did you see her tits or her ass
but
Yes, confidence is also sexy

[02:10] [Phoebe] Every now and then I’ll be like oh
Yeah, I like him. He’s nice, but usually I point out the woman first because
I really women are very sexy. I’m not by but women are
very sexy and I’ve said this before in previous podcasts
I appreciate women wholeheartedly because I am I am a woman
I know everything that went into her evening absolutely everything and I can
Completely appreciate that right and she’s the gatekeeper
So if I don’t honor and respect her and the partner that she picked to walk in life with her

[02:55] [Unknown] Then

[02:56] [Phoebe] We’re not getting anywhere. So totally agree. I

[03:02] [Ed] I’m with you babe. I got I got your back

[03:10] [Phoebe] All right number two you want to go with number two

[03:14] [Ed] Swinging is better than being single because
You already have your cake and ice cream
Now you’re searching for a cherry
Yeah, it’s kind of nice to think that
That’s not the goal for the evening. I mean, I mean it is it’s the target right
But you know you already got
The best sex partner with you. Yeah, exactly

[03:51] [Unknown] It’s great

[03:54] [Phoebe] If you don’t like your date
Meaning another swing couple maybe you’ve connected and it doesn’t work out
You already have the perfect match which is kind of like number two, but you are my perfect match. Oh

[04:11] [Ed] Thanks honey
Yeah, I’d go home with you any night of the week
It’s true and
This is really good advice for people who are out
In the lifestyle at a club trying to hook up with another couple
Maybe feeling anxious about or whatever
If it doesn’t pan out

[04:37] [Unknown] if

[04:39] [Ed] You got to pull the rip cord and you’re just not ready
That’s okay because you already have
The the A plan you were just looking for the B plan right and you do have to

[04:52] [Phoebe] Yourself on the back for all the other
Achievements or goals that you reach that night even though you may have not known there a goal right
Maybe you’re shy you’re an introverted type of couple right and you’re like, you know
Hey pat ourselves on the back because we actually talked to five couples. Yeah, it didn’t pan out
But we handed out our card. We got some good practice. It’s like a job in of you, right and you met people and you introduce people

[05:18] [Ed] and maybe
You ruled couples out right we thought they were interesting their profile looked good, but no exactly

[05:28] [Phoebe] Exactly or you learned something fascinating a lot of times
when we
Went to places and we didn’t end up playing we learned so much about
House parties in the area
Places to go resorts the cruises like we learned about all that just by talking to people

[05:50] [Ed] Absolutely and we made friends with the hosts and hostesses
We had a fun evening out like it’s always you’ve always got a backup plan. Yeah, which is great

[06:03] [Phoebe] It’s it’s really all about staying connected
All right swinging is better than being single because

[06:14] [Ed] Maybe this one’s yours. Yeah, I’m gonna go with this one because I like this one
Flirting with the waitress is more fun with your wife sitting next to you
And we’ve done this before. Oh, yeah, it’s a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, it’s a lot of fun was
New years. I think a couple years ago. We went to a nice dinner

[06:40] [Phoebe] But a very nice restaurant. Yeah, very nice restaurant upscale in the mall

[06:45] [Ed] I know it doesn’t sound right, but there’s but it’s California. It’s super
Loki lighting

[06:53] [Phoebe] And the bar was so cool

[06:56] [Ed] Table cloth no table cloth. Yeah, table cloths. Now we went to the bar first
We sat at the bar. Yeah, and we ate at the bar, too. Yes, that’s true. But
The bartender I am was super flirty. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. This one is like

[07:13] [Phoebe] Is she is she not should we say something should give her our hookah?

[07:16] [Ed] Should have given her the hookah I’m just telling you right now

[07:19] [Phoebe] She’s kept asking all these leading questions and we were so nervous to pull the trigger of me like

[07:25] [Ed] I’m just gonna leave this right here. She was
Just shy of leaving her phone number

[07:31] [Phoebe] Yes, and she invited us back the next morning for the Sunday brunch and the moses and she’s talking up the mimosas right there

[07:39] [Ed] The best on the planet like it was a staff thing and they all kind of hung out and did the thing in the next morning

[07:46] [Phoebe] She wanted to hang out with that. Oh, yeah, I know I don’t a kicking myself like wide

[07:53] [Ed] Why didn’t we yeah, I got a lot of those stories in my life
Why didn’t I?
All right number five

[08:04] [Phoebe] Your significant other doesn’t get upset
When you have sex with other people see now I can’t think of any

[08:15] [Ed] Well very many single people or people who are dating

[08:19] [Unknown] who

[08:21] [Ed] Are monogamous who would not be just
Blown away by that whole thing and like that’s the end. I’m out
Swinging’s better just saying

[08:34] [Phoebe] Although you know technically when you’re dating you might be having sex with
Several people. I mean my calendar was pretty full. I heard

[08:46] [Ed] Mine was empty. I don’t want to hear about it. I was working that funnel that sales funnel man

[08:52] [Phoebe] I had three days and it was a job
Sounds terrible. I wasn’t having sex with everyone
But I was going on a lot of dates

[09:05] [Unknown] She had sex with quite a few I did I I
I gained a lot of knowledge. It was research. Yeah, it was research

[09:15] [Phoebe] It made me a better wife for you
I can’t argue with you for my research. I cannot argue with that

[09:26] [Ed] I got nothing

[09:29] [Unknown] All right

[09:31] [Ed] Swinging is better than being single because

[09:35] [Phoebe] Oh

[09:36] [Ed] You get to watch live sex while on your date

[09:41] [Phoebe] Live sex

[09:43] [Ed] The closest most people get when they go on the date
Maybe and this is a real stretch maybe going to a strip club with your date. Oh, yeah, uh, I have done that
But that’s fun. Yeah, it is fun. We went we went to a strip club on our honeymoon. Yeah, we did that
That was fun
We had so much fun

[10:08] [Phoebe] That woman was the sexiest woman ever. I still remember her chocolate is so good
It’s so beautiful

[10:18] [Ed] Okay, your average date goes something like
Hitting chilies
Maybe a red lobster
Square cow fun bar

[10:32] [Unknown] Square cow fun bar. It’s an old commercial on dating myself. I know what

[10:38] [Ed] Black angus the square cow fun bar. That’s how they advertise themselves
Yeah, cuz their logo was like a cow, but it was like a rectangle like a square
cow

[10:51] [Phoebe] Did they say that in their ad square cow fun bar? Mm-hmm. That’s retarded

[10:57] [Ed] Well, it’s not as bad as the
Quiz nose creature that was cooking the sandwiches, which was very disturbing what something dressed up in a costume
I’ll show you the video if you want to see something really disturbing look up the quiz nose
Furball character. I don’t even know what to describe it. It was horrible. Not cute like a Furby. No
Gross like roadkill

[11:26] [Phoebe] Oh
Yes, not

[11:31] [Ed] So going to watch live sex. I mean
You’re at a place where people
More than one two three four sometimes six or more people all having sex

[11:46] [Phoebe] Right there in front of you. I know it’s it’s absolutely insane the the sights the sound like

[11:53] [Ed] Everybody likes watching porn
If you’re listening to this podcast you like watching porn. I’ll just

[12:00] [Phoebe] Cover it that way. Yeah, absolutely

[12:03] [Ed] But seeing it live watching so different real people
Fuck in front of you and it’s not you and your partner fucking it’s

[12:14] [Unknown] Yeah, a whole bunch of other people fucking. It’s crazy. I love it. It’s mind blowing the first few times that you see it

[12:21] [Ed] Oh, yeah, you get a little
De-sensitize to it. It’s still exciting. I
But that first night that we went

[12:31] [Phoebe] Yes, I it was overwhelming just because it’s like anything new, right? It’s like you you
It’s literally like literally like crossing a boundary line, you know
You’re at the four corners between Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and California
You know like oh my god. Do I dare step over the line?

[12:54] [Ed] My god, I’m in another state. Okay, maybe it’s not that dramatic but and by the way the four corners is not nearly exciting as watching
Other people

[13:04] [Phoebe] It’s any line that you cross
It that’s not a societal norm experience

[13:12] [Ed] Well, yeah, you think it’s the first time drinking the first kiss the first whatever yeah
Anyway, but it doesn’t get old watching people have sex this is ten times
Like it’s awesome because

[13:28] [Phoebe] Who does that nobody talks about that everyone talks about drinking everyone talks about their first kiss right people

[13:35] [Ed] Don’t talk about watching live sex. You know what? I know a podcast that talks about watching people have live sex

[13:41] [Unknown] What oh swing in the university? Okay, holy I know. I’m so notty. Oh my gosh. Okay. What number are we on?

[13:50] [Ed] I

[13:52] [Phoebe] Seven seven lucky number seven. Oh, we’re almost halfway there

[13:57] [Unknown] Swinging is better than being single because if you know. Oh, this is this is yours. This is so yours

[14:05] [Phoebe] It is if you need to put a sock in his mouth. He might like it

[14:12] [Ed] Yes, yes, kinky. Yes bastards. Yes, and there and you will run into people that are very kinky

[14:21] [Phoebe] And like certain things
And it might throw you off if they don’t discuss that with you ahead of time and then you just have to roll with it. You’re like
Oh, oh, oh, we’re going there. Oh, you like my the middle toe of my foot stuck up your nostril. Oh
Okay, I guess we’re going there

[14:42] [Ed] All right, yeah, hey, whatever turns your crank as they say
And everybody’s got their own thing. Yes, they do they do

[14:53] [Phoebe] You probably won’t run into most of that, but unless you’re in a specific group and there is a specific group for
kinks

[15:02] [Ed] We’ve rendered this a couple really kinky couples. Oh, yeah
Uh, not a lot, but a couple no and some

[15:12] [Phoebe] really into
The one couple we ran into was into blood play

[15:18] [Ed] And they were the most kinky people that we’ve met that was yeah, that was more on the

[15:24] [Unknown] I don’t know

[15:27] [Phoebe] What scale you want to call it, but I it’s

[15:30] [Unknown] It’s a more of a pool. It it fascinated me

[15:35] [Phoebe] From the standpoint that I didn’t know that existed and I
Wanted to I wanted to hear their experience and they were so open
And then they were so excited about sharing it which made me
Really interested in listening to them sure then they shared their photos and I was like holy crap
I had no idea. So I had this huge education

[16:01] [Unknown] Just at a house party

[16:04] [Ed] It’s fascinating to hear about

[16:07] [Phoebe] People’s experiences and people and what turns them on and what makes them tick and what gets them off and it’s
It may not be for you, but it’s absolutely fascinating to me because what what turns somebody on may not be my thing
But hey
But it’s cool to hear interesting stories if you’re driving pleasure from it and it’s your deal and I
Whatever absolutely. We are very sex positive. I know it’s so cool. I love every I love I love everything

[16:42] [Ed] All right swinging is better than being single because
You get to flirt with three people instead of one

[16:51] [Unknown] Yeah

[16:53] [Phoebe] three if it’s another couple or more

[16:56] [Unknown] For as many people as you can gather in an evening like on a cruise. Oh god technically
It’s quite a bit if you’re in a little group target rich environment

[17:08] [Phoebe] We were supposed to be on a cruise in November

[17:12] [Unknown] Yeah, that’s

[17:14] [Phoebe] Not gonna happen stupid go there

[17:18] [Ed] But we did we flirted with a lot of people on the cruise
We met a lot of people had good conversation and the conversation can go anywhere from
mild to
overtly sexual
Yes, it’s either hey, we’re having a fun conversation with new people yay to
What things can I say to make her wet and get her in bed?

[17:49] [Phoebe] I think we should go to the playroom now

[17:52] [Ed] Or just lay it out

[17:54] [Unknown] Yeah

[17:56] [Ed] And that often works very well
Hey, we were thinking about swinging by the playroom. Do you want to come with us?

[18:04] [Phoebe] Maybe go check it out. Go right now. They got towels. They got columns. They got lubed
They got everything they got brush sheets. You don’t even need to go back to your room. Just no no no come with us come with us. No come with us

[18:14] [Ed] This way arm to arm off you go. Let me show you a few things. Oh, you’ve never been let’s go
We’ll just take a little tour right come see this bed really nice

[18:26] [Phoebe] Let’s check it out

[18:27] [Ed] Come sit down next to me. Let me tell you a story

[18:31] [Phoebe] Never let them go never let them go
All right, all right number nine
You get to change your outfit
Multiple times in one night. How did these keep landing on my perfect? I know it’s perfect, right?
All right, so you’re in a show
Yeah, you’re at an event
You’re on a cruise
You’ve you’ve shown up in your high heels and you know here
Those heels may only be 20 minute heels right either run back to the room change them for another
pair of shoes that are more comfortable. Maybe you got to some sparkly flip floppies or slip-ons, right that looks some fuzzy slippers
Yeah, like my fuzzies that I have that right now. I like your fuzzy slippers

[19:21] [Unknown] I know
So

[19:25] [Phoebe] There’s that I always bring multiple outfits

[19:28] [Ed] We’ve seen
The theme night
presented early in the evening
Women come in costume to match the theme gentlemen come in costume and then as they dance a while they get hot
They go back to their room
They want to change a little bit
Maybe they got a little sweaty. They need to go refresh go freshen up a little bit
You want to be yeah switch out to the lingerie and the fluffy robe and

[19:59] [Phoebe] Back to the party exactly all right number 10

[20:04] [Unknown] 10 perfect 10

[20:07] [Ed] Dressing
Two slutty air quotes two slutty is actually in courage. Yes

[20:17] [Unknown] I

[20:18] [Phoebe] People are practically naked on the dance floor with these dresses that have like
Holes everywhere and little pasties over their nipples and that’s it they do everything they can

[20:30] [Ed] To be dressed enough
To not get thrown out of the party right

[20:37] [Phoebe] Just enough and some time or well or the square or the triangle sorry
Because most of us don’t have people care anymore
That’s covered nipples are covered and you’re good. Yeah

[20:53] [Ed] We’ve seen so many ladies who are like oh, oh, oh, I forgot my pasties. Yeah, but but but but that’s in our okay

[21:02] [Unknown] Yeah a little and missalers if you’re listening

[21:07] [Phoebe] They have to go around and help those to re-paste
The pasty on their nipples. That’s right
You should play by the rules because in California you can be topless as a woman

[21:20] [Unknown] You just have to have your nipples covered. Yes, and so a lot of

[21:27] [Phoebe] The people on to come out on the boats on the river in the summertime will be topless and they just have their pasties on and that’s all right

[21:34] [Ed] It’s a great state in some ways

[21:42] [Phoebe] Swinging is better than being single because if your date doesn’t work out
You can pick up that other sexy couple you met in the playroom

[21:53] [Ed] That’s right. You don’t have to stick with who you brought
Who you intended to meet there
You can always change up

[22:03] [Phoebe] Yep as long as you’re nice and polite maybe you’ve chatted up a couple all week long or all month long
And you meet face-to-face and you’re like

[22:12] [Unknown] you know

[22:14] [Phoebe] It just isn’t working
The chemistry is just not there. I something’s just not right just off and you circle around and you meet somebody else
Or you peruse the playroom and you
Join another bed and off you go

[22:32] [Ed] Now in all honesty that could probably happen when you were single two but
Considering all of the options that are available at a swing club
You’ve got lots of opportunity. Yeah
Everybody’s there for a good time. Yes

[22:50] [Unknown] All right

[22:58] [Ed] Swinging is better than being single because
And I like this one you get to have sex in public

[23:09] [Phoebe] Yeah, so not only do you get to watch it you get to do it
Now a surprising number of swingers actually don’t like being exhibitionists. I don’t get it

[23:22] [Ed] But hey everybody’s got their thing
We do and it is a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, we love being watched. Yeah putting on a nice show

[23:35] [Phoebe] Well and you get
This whole like oh no, it’s it’s almost like a movie you can look around everywhere
I keep thinking of the crews and the playroom because it was almost this 360
view of just
bodies on beds having sex. I mean
it was
It was very stimulating and you could say it was a little overwhelming
But it was a fucking lot of fun right the more you get used to seeing that the more it’s like
The more you can actually focus on your own experience and it adds to it
But oh, yeah for the first time I totally get that it be overwhelming

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[25:28] [Ed] I enjoy it because I’m having fun obviously in the first person perspective here
But looking around and seeing that everybody’s enjoying what we’re doing. Oh, yeah, that’s like double hot

[25:43] [Phoebe] It’s like yeah that happened on the cruise to people would stop and pause

[25:47] [Ed] And they’d start playing with themselves or get so turned on that they want to join us on right
I like turning people on to the point where they want to have sex too. Yeah, that’s
You’re doing a public service exactly exactly. This is co-nunity service. Oh

[26:09] [Phoebe] I like sharing I know you’re so good
13 lucky 13 invite him. Oh, we’ve already kind of talked about this inviting random onlookers
To your bed is more fun

[26:29] [Ed] Yeah, you you don’t get that opportunity as a single

[26:33] [Phoebe] I mean, there’s a one night stand. It’s just you and the other

[26:37] [Unknown] right then

[26:39] [Ed] Maybe they’ve got a roommate, but oh
Yeah, it doesn’t always happen except for in the stories that I like to read

[26:49] [Phoebe] It even happened at

[26:51] [Ed] trapeze in florida. Oh, yeah

[26:54] [Unknown] I

[26:55] [Ed] Maybe a little more so that what we want it right right we were

[27:00] [Phoebe] We really only wanted to play with one couple and there was another couple that was
A little aggressive right and I had to
I’m sorry. We’re only playing with this couple this knee being but thank you for your interest
Sometimes happens. He he did not like that, but that’s okay
I mean tough no geese it happens. I was nice, but he had the best in mind

[27:33] [Ed] Swinging is better than being single because
You get to have
Oh, this one’s not mine, but I’ll say it anyway
You get to have more than one dick in a night

[27:47] [Phoebe] You say dick so well now

[27:50] [Ed] Cuz I carry one with me everywhere I go
Or if you’re a guy you get to have more than one
pussy or set of tits
Uh-huh woman
The whole package legs

[28:06] [Phoebe] I know you love the legs

[28:08] [Ed] I’m such a leg man

[28:11] [Phoebe] Yes, well, he’s an everything man, but he’ll I do like he’ll chew all the bits like
Nibble on my legs you and your legs too
I know

[28:23] [Unknown] I know

[28:26] [Phoebe] You like the whole woman that’s what I love about you

[28:30] [Ed] But yeah, you you you get to have sex with more than one person in a night
So even if you’re doing the whole one night stand thing in your dating. Yeah, this is like

[28:42] [Phoebe] Plural one night. Yeah, and you know, maybe the couple that you had sex with was great or um
Let’s say it was okay
And you’re like, you know, let’s get back out there

[28:55] [Ed] The 90s young at the house party did happen at the house. We went upstairs. We played doing actually

[29:00] [Phoebe] We had a good time and we’re like woohoo, and we got freshened up cleaned up in the bathroom
We went back down to the morning
And we lured another couple back upstairs
Another round of sex let’s it was so awesome. We were like pat ourselves all the back
We’re like oh my god, that’s never happened

[29:20] [Ed] We felt so sweaty. It was awesome. It was it was great. It was super hot

[29:27] [Phoebe] Swinging is better than being single because and this is your number 15
Dating only gives you one partner for the evening
But swinging can give you more

[29:39] [Ed] That’s right and and this is kind of a summary of most of the other points here and that’s
You’ve got an opportunity to meet a whole bunch of people and have a really good time. You’re not
limiting to yourself to that one
Tender day coffee day whatever that just right maybe works out maybe doesn’t because you went to there
That rendezvous and you sat and talked with him for an hour or two hours and nothing happened
swinging
Not really a problem right move on
Say hi
Thank you
Thanks for the nice conversation. We’re gonna mingle some more
And you move on right the next couple and

[30:33] [Phoebe] One tip I’ll
Give you all is that a lot of times we will say
If we if we’ve met someone online
We’ll say hey, let’s meet you at an event
because
It gives everyone an out
Plus it gives people a form of entertainment
There’s music which brings people together. There’s food that brings people together
It forces people to mingle and mix and you know if the chemistry isn’t right face to face

[31:09] [Unknown] mean

[31:10] [Phoebe] Then you’ve got
Another opportunity for the evening and no one really feels like it was a waste of their time
Because online chatting and online
texting or emailing or virtual stuff whatever you’re doing is going to be different face to face right
We take a lot of time to get ready. We take a lot of time to plan and coordinate child care et cetera et cetera
That’s why I always feel like let’s just meet in an event
So that way you know if it doesn’t work out for us if it doesn’t work out for you then yeah great
Everybody get a backup and go mix and mingle with some other couple because we’re all here

[31:50] [Ed] It takes the pressure off you don’t have to make it work. No, you can let it go

[31:56] [Phoebe] It’s okay. I mean, yeah, so

[32:01] [Ed] And we’ve done dinner dates where it was

[32:04] [Guest] Very pressured and you felt you had to make a decision at the end. Yeah, yeah, because you had a couple sitting across from a table from you and

[32:14] [Ed] You had to let them know. Yes or no. Is it gonna happen or not? Yeah, are we going to the hotel or to somebody’s house right not? Yeah
But with a nightclub, you’re like hey, it was really nice meeting you and it’s like a soft exit. It’s not
Binary yes, no, right
We don’t like you. We like you
You know, it’s it’s pressure. Yeah, we don’t have that
At a larger event because you can go hey
If when we see you there, we’ll say hi
We’ll get to know each other see what happens. It’s very open-ended. Yeah, so I’m closing

[33:00] [Phoebe] Just remember at the end of the night
You have the best day

[33:09] [Unknown] Already yay
Your partner, mm-hmm. Thanks everyone for listening
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